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0:00 What to look for in red light masks, iRestore review
5:55 Red light safe for hyperpigmentation, melasma?
6:22 Spicules, VT Reedle Shot
10:05 Vitamin C formula innovations

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starting with the red light mask this section 
is sponsored by iRestore but these are my   honest opinions check out this link for more 
about my sponsorships and how they operate I’ve talked about light treatments before 
what they do and the science behind how   they work but in short the main benefits 
of red and infrared light for skin are   smoothing out fine lines and wrinkles 
reducing skin sensitivity and redness I’ve only been using them for about 4 months 
and I try a lot of skincare products so I can’t   say this is all definitely the red light 
but I found that my perioral dermatitis   is a lot calmer my skin tone is more even 
and it kind of just gives me a nice glow last time I talked about getting a product with 
the right specs but home devices do need to be   used consistently to see benefits and what makes 
a product more usable for one person isn’t going   to be the same as for someone else so you want 
to read lots of opinions from different people I get sent lots of masks so I am 
planning to talk more about the   differences between products that 
are a bit harder to see and maybe   someday I’ll have a page that is 
as useful as goals to get glowing a lot of people have asked me about red light 
and hyperpigmentation and this is a bit of a   complicated topic mine has gotten lighter in the 
time I’ve been using red light masks and there are   studies where it evened out skin tone including in 
darker skin but some people have said that their   pigment got darker and I think that is a potential 
risk but there are also ways to reduce that risk it’s a bit too complicated for this video but I 
have an article on it link is in the description on to spicules I have been 
asked so many times about   what I think of the VT reedle shot so here it is spicules are a new trend mostly coming out of 
Korea they are essentially micro needles that   are inside the product the ones you mostly see 
in products come from marine sponges it’s sort   of like their skeletons they are made of 
silica this is part of the overall trend   of delivery systems these are like ways of 
getting ingredients into your skin better   so you’ll see spicules mixed with lots of 
other ingredients that they should help   get deeper into skin but at the same time 
they seem to have benefits of their own so when you have these spikes and you rub 
them into your skin they either exfoliate   your skin and they get rid of some of the dead 
skin layers or they might stick into your skin   and create micro channels these both mean that 
ingredients can potentially get deeper more easily spicules are relatively new so 
there are essentially two big   questions do they work and are they actually safe in my opinion it looks like they are effective 
for smoothing out skin texture and making pores   look smaller those are the main things that 
people have been raving about but it’s a bit   harder to say how well they work for delivering 
the ingredients deeper since they are physical   spikes that’s going to depend on how you 
use it so how hard you rub and for how long also the specifics of the formula so like the 
shapes of the spicules how many there are and   what the other active ingredients are there aren’t 
a lot of human studies and they are all very small   sample sizes but overall I think it’s really 
promising there is a research group in China   led by Professor Ming Chen they’ve looked at 
lots of really cool applications like delivering   insulin and treating melanoma these need to 
work much deeper than skincare and generally the   spicules are paired with other delivery systems 
like liposomes but overall lots of potential the other big question is safety so Dr Dray in 
early 2024 said that she was worried about foreign   body granulomas basically the concern is sponge 
spicules are made of silica which is the same   as glass or sand in theory if a spicule gets too 
deep you could end up with a chunk in your skin   that your body can’t break down your immune system 
might then react and you essentially end up with a   really angry bump that can be difficult to treat 
and this sort of thing can take years to show up Mo Skin Lab is a toxicologist 
and cosmetic safety assessor   he did a great video going deeper into 
spicules so watch that for more details basically there’s not that much solid data yet 
and in theory there is the possibility of foreign   body granulomas but there was a rat study that 
found that the spicules were shed by day three obviously rat skin isn’t the same as 
human skin and we won’t really know   with that much certainty until there are 
longer term studies which should hopefully   be happening especially if those Chinese 
researchers move towards drug approvals   but the risk does depend on pressure so 
the harder you rub the higher the risk Euniunni did an interview with someone 
from VT’s product development team they   make the reedle shot which is the most famous line   they said their spicules don’t reach 
the dermis no matter how hard you rub another interesting point I found in a recent 
paper the Chinese researchers mentioned that their   silica spicules are mesoporous that means they are 
full of tiny holes they have a different structure   so they should break down under lots of conditions 
unlike more solid chunks of glass or sand now we don’t know if this is the case for spicules   used in skincare or not we don’t know 
if their structure is different enough   but it isn’t like all silica spicules 
are completely unable to be decomposed it would be nice to see studies 
on specific products but overall   it does seem like a pretty small risk 
especially if you don’t press very hard also one of the studies was done using spicules 
made from hyaluronic acid which is a lot easier   for your body to break down but I haven’t come 
across products with those ones yet let me know if   you’ve seen them also the spicules seem to be too 
big to be inhaled if you are concerned about that onto vitamin C I talked about L-ascorbic 
acid vitamin C formulas a while back but   there’s been a few developments since then the biggest one is that skinceuticals CE 
ferulic patent that has now expired this   is a big deal because Sheldon Pinnell who founded   skinceuticals he invented the most popular 
parameters for formulating L-ascorbic acid essentially if you have a low pH and you 
combine it with particular antioxidants   it’ll stay stable for longer and get into 
skin and work L’Oreal acquired skinceuticals   in 2005 so they own the patent but now other 
companies can use this very proven combination there’s been copycats around for quite a while 
but there was usually some kind of workaround   to avoid patent infringement because I mean 
Drunk Elephant got sued for their formula there were little differences like some people 
who are more sensitive to vitamin C found that   the skinceuticals formula was much less irritating 
but now copycat formulas will probably be more   similar and also more common which is nice 
because skinceuticals was great but pricey but I also don’t know if the patent expiring 
is that big of a deal anymore because in   the last few years there’s been a lot of 
different vitamin C products coming onto   the market that I think are actually big 
improvements on the skinceuticals formula and I mean this is the whole reason 
patents expire it’s just meant to   protect your invention for 20 years so 
that you can make money from it while   also sharing it with the world and having 
that information publicly available so that   everyone can benefit from that information and 
make more innovative formulas in the meantime so newer formulas first off higher pH ascorbic 
acid formulas I’ve talked about this a bit   before but a lot of skincare companies 
have been working on this for a while quite a lot of people find vitamin C serums 
irritating and a large part of this seems to   be that low pH it is one of the lowest 
pH categories of skincare product and   in the last few years L’Oreal in particular have 
launched a few higher pH L-ascorbic acid formulas there was a bit of controversy on social 
media and on YouTube because some people   were taking this one sentence from the 
Pinnell vitamin C paper very very literally   so they thought this was proof that anything 
higher than pH 3.5 could not possibly work but peer-reviewed papers are written for an 
academic audience who know the background   science of how ingredients get into skin 
so in that context it is pretty obvious   that this claim only refers to very simple 
formulas pH is only one of the many factors   that influences what gets into skin and there’s 
been a bunch of papers and patents from brands   not just L’Oreal showing that you can stabilize 
vitamin C and get it into skin at a higher pH disclaimer I have done sponsored posts 
about this specific product but I was   approached to do that well after 
I first posted about this pH issue last time I talked about it I was just guessing 
how it worked because I am terrible at finding   patents but L’Oreal did recently publish 
a paper this has more details about the   chemistry behind their approach and I 
know I have a PhD in chemistry and this   is my specialty area but it is still nice to 
know that I’m right because imposter syndrome it is indeed a polymer that binds to the ascorbate   ion and keeps it stable sort of 
like a chemical protecting group during accelerated testing it did go a bit yellow 
but only about 6% of the ascorbic acid broke down   and these conditions are meant to reflect what 
might happen over a year at room temperature they say they still need to work out if the 
polymer is holding the ascorbic acid on the   surface of the skin and they’re 
slowly releasing it but L’Oreal   have published clinical data on these 
formulas showing that they’re working I also wanted to give an update on 
poems from the lab future focus this   is the vitamin C formula from 
my friend kind of Stephen he is   a cosmetic chemist and his opinions 
on skincare science I really respect so cosmetic chemists they have very 
varied backgrounds and so sometimes   the scientific reasoning is not the strongest he has put a lot of work into this and I 
think it is a really nice demonstration   that you do not need to be a giant 
multinational brand to make cool products he stabilized this with a different antioxidant 
system from the skinceuticals patent and those   antioxidants do have benefits of their own he’s 
also using a different penetration enhancer   and this tube is super super clever 
it is really protective against air there’s this really persistent myth that 
airless pumps are protective against air   but they are really not there are lots of 
little gaps between hard components so gas   molecules if you think back to early 
high school they are tiny and they are   not bound to each other so if you can see a 
gap they can definitely get through it gas   molecules are so tiny that they can actually 
get through some types of like solid plastic I think I first talked about this in my wedding 
skincare video but my first tube of this has now   been open for over 18 months which is more than a 
year and a half I’ve kept it at room temperature   not in a fridge or anything and there is brown 
stuff on the thread and also inside the cap but   it is still a really pale color it is much less 
oxidized than newer formulas that I’ve tried this is one of my top recommendations 
for a vitamin C serum it is just   really really nice and it lasts so long I know I keep saying I’m going to do proper 
videos going through retinol and vitamin C   derivatives and I swear I am trying and I’m 
working on it I have about 30,000 words of   notes on them but the thing that’s making 
it more difficult is how spotty the data is a lot of the information on them 
comes from ingredient companies and   whether or not you can trust them 
is very much just based on vibes it is much worse than peer-reviewed studies and   I’ve already talked about how hard it 
is to interpret peer-reviewed studies I keep holding on to the hope that better data 
will come out and I can give a more confident   certain answer if there’s any brand who wants 
to share more info with me please hit me up but for now I think it is pretty certain 
that vitamin C derivatives don’t work as   well as L-ascorbic acid but they might 
be less irritating and more stable my   favorite vitamin C derivatives are 3-o-ethyl 
ascorbic acid ascorbyl glucoside also THDA   but that is kind of like a wild card pick 
where the certainty is like there’s just a   lot of uncertainty it could work really 
well or it could just not work at all   but if it does work that would be 
really cool because it is oil soluble if you want more about vitamin C I have a video 
on that you can also check out my video on why   retinol is not a scam for more of the mess behind 
cosmetic science let me know what other innovative   skincare products you’re wondering about and 
also check out my skincare science playlist