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00:00:00 CRISPR Brain Editing Primer
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00:24:00 Clinical Figures Genetics Context
00:36:00 Cells Protein Statistics Explained
00:48:00 Spike mRNA Transmission Evidence
01:00:00 RFK COVID Mortality Policies
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01:48:00 Genome Editing Therapy Overview
02:00:00 Discord Q&A: Lab Methods
02:12:00 Nature Cell Brain Findings
02:24:00 Neural Models Mice Results
02:36:00 WHO Genetics Protein Debate
02:48:00 Gene Therapy Practical Takeaways
03:00:00 RFK Disinformation Claims Examined
03:12:00 Climate Data Temperature Trends
03:24:00 COVID Channel Updates Community
03:36:00 TikTok Content Guidelines Senate
03:48:00 COVID Flu Wrap-Up
particle theory. I’m not a physicist, but
that seems really cool. Um, so if you guys want to follow along, Gary, I topped in your
stream today, too. That was cool. Thank you for um your writing stream. That’s a really cool
like co-working environment. I appreciate you, dude. I do. Great. I I did it my first live
ever. I just wanted to see if it was working, you know, and I I have Thank you. I um
I I did it for like four hours. I was going through because I was showing all the
lab leak stuff. I was going through all the publications showing and now it just pops up
within 5 seconds of me putting an article on and it says you’re no longer going to be
flagged uh in in the system and that’s it. Gary, you’re so silly. You’re so silly. Yeah.
I don’t know. I don’t get it. It’s really frustrating. I really don’t get it. Thank you.
Thank you for the follows. Thank you everyone. Um, awesome. There’s there’s so many people
in here already. Thank you so much. So, um, I just want to quick Let’s see. I’m learning,
guys. I’m learning this. Let’s see. Thank you, Jen. Thank you, Sheepoodle. Thank you, Nico. Thank
you guys so much. I appreciate it. Um, please remember if you’re in here, please remember to
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on. You there was 100,000 likes. I I I didn’t I only have 400,000 likes on my entire account and
a 100,000 of it was last night. I’ve I I don’t You guys were doing work. Like it was unbelievable.
Thank you so much. You guys were doing it. It is is incredible. I I I was blown away. Thank
you. Um so check my link tree in my bio. Um, that’s where all the links are for our Discord,
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on top of that, all my all my um on my link tree, I actually have my publications there, too. So, if
you want like primary literature, um, uh, sorry, Jerry. Yeah, I was lurking. I was I was in dad
mode all day, dude. So, I’m sorry I couldn’t I couldn’t chat. Um, but yeah, I was. Um, and then
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all my lives. So, if you guys, you know, please take a mental health break. You don’t have to be
here all the time. Uh, thank you. Thank you guys. Um, and uh, yeah. So, here we go. All right. So,
first off, guys, this is so cool. This is my first time trying this. I tried This is fresh, guys.
This is fresh. So, we’re going to try We’re going to try Yeah, I did. I was looking at her um her
knitting stream. That was amazing. Okay, guys. So, we’re going to try this. Switch over. Here we go.
Different camera angle. Boom. science article, guys. So, brain editing is now closer to a
reality. The gene altering tools tackling deadly disorders. Stunning results in mice herald
gene editing advances for neurological diseases. This is straight from nature.com. If you guys
want to see the actual article and you want to follow along, check the show notes in the Discord.
Scientists are close in closing in on the ability to apply genome editing to a formidable new
target, the human brain. In the past 2 years, a spate of technological advances and promising
results in mice have been laying the groundwork for treating devastating brain disorders using
techniques derived from crisper gene editing. Researchers hope that human trials are just a few
years away. The data has never looked so good, says Monica Conrads, the founder and chief
executive of the Rhett Syndrome Research Trust in Connecticut. This is less and less science fiction
and closer to reality. Daunting challenges. Researchers have already developed gene editing
therapies to treat diseases of the blood, liver, and eyes. In May, researchers reported a stunning
success using a bespoke gene editing therapy to treat a baby boy named Kay. Is that David
Arloo? Anyone? Does anyone know that? I I think that might be um I think that might be the single
editing nucleotide career. Anyway, sorry. I I love David Arloo so much. I get so excited. Um but the
brain possesses special challenges. The molecular components needed to treat KJ were inserted into
fatty particles that naturally accumulate in the liver. Researchers are searching for similar
particles that can selectively target the brain, which is surrounded by a defense barrier that can
prevent many substances from entering. Although KJ’s story was exciting, it was also frustrating
for those whose family members have neurological diseases, says Conrads, whose organization focuses
on Rhett syndrome, a rare disorder that affects brain development. The question that I hear from
our families is quote, “I was done so quickly for him. It was done so quickly for him. What’s
taking us so long? She says the pool of concerned families is growing as physicians and families
increasingly turn to genome sequencing to find the causes of once mysterious brain disorders. See, so
we’re having sequencing now that are informing us better and what’s going on. And that’s there’s not
an increase of diseases, guys. We are dis we are getting the we getting we’re recognizing them for
the first time. The pool of concerned families is growing as physicians and families increasingly
turn to Oh, already uh people are starting to now find out that their child’s seizures, for example,
are related to a particular genetic mutations. Pretty cool, huh? Pretty cool. All right.
How cool. So, that’s our science segment. So, we’re going to do that every
hour. Every hour on the hour, we’re going to have a science article. We’re going
to have And then we’re going to go back to this. We’re going to go back to this. We’re going to go
back right to this. No. No. We’re going to go to this. One second. Still work in progress, guys.
We’re a rough draft. We’re back. We’re back. Oh, we’re back. Hey, what’s up, guys? Awesome.
How’s everyone doing? Pretty cool. I’m so excited getting figuring it out. Thanks for
following. Thanks for all the likes. Thank you for the diamonds and everything, guys. So happy
to. Feels like we are hitting our strides. We’re really I feel like we’re really getting getting to
something right now in this stream, in this space. I’m so excited. It’s so cool. Hey, what’s up,
bud? How’s it going? Welcome in everyone. Welcome in. Thank you, Dra. Thank you, Sheepa Doodle.
Thank you, Jen, so much. All right, guys. Um, do you do you develop computational models as
a microbiologist? And has AI influenced how you approach problems? Man, that’s a great question. I
have tried to get into more data science and AI as I work, but it’s I’m so like wet labrained. I’m
so just kind of focused on wet lab stuff that I it’s hard for me to do that. But I would love to.
I would love to in general. I don’t have anything against it, you know. Oh, Dr. T is in the house.
What’s up? How’s it going, everyone? All right. Well, well, it’s open now if anyone wants to do
a ask me a question or anything like that. Dr. T, I went to your stream today. That was so cool. Saw
you knitting. That was very cool. You were talking about how you wanted to show up with a quilt, like
it was a a quilt cape. we were talking about a long flowing quilt cape to your to your students
and um anyway. So, all right guys, this is so cool. Um, thank you guys. Thank you. If anyone
has any questions or anything, you can jump in. It is open. The lines are open. Or I can just do
another science article. What do you guys think? All right. Hello. Hello. Welcome in, guys. Welcome in. What a Everyone’s
so excited. It’s so cool. Thank you. All right. Let’s cook. All right. Let’s do
it. All right. You want to do another article, guys? That’s I’m um Let’s see. I got some
other ones. Let’s see. Let’s see. Let’s see. I do not work with stem cells personally,
but I think that they are very cool. Oh, here we go. We’ll just do
this. The Oh, dude. Oh, yeah. Thank you guys. If you guys want to do a
super chat or please subscribe. That’s going to run every 15 minutes. I don’t want it to be
annoying. So, let me know if that’s too much or what what you know what I mean. I don’t want
the whole stream to be an ad. I hate that. But, I do want to let people know that we have
cool things that are happening in the LA in the the stream. So, figure a chat message
is a good way to do that. Always welcome and uh open to suggestions. Okay. Um, did we read
the I don’t think we read this last night. Oh, yeah. This is the archa one.
Uh, let’s see. Let’s see. One second, guys. We ask chat TBT. Okay. Well, when in doubt, I just go
to nature and look at the news. It’s all right. If you guys want to follow along,
you’re always welcome to follow along in the show notes in the in the Discord. That’s
where everything’s going to be posted. Whoa. Well, this is interesting. All right. A controversial quantum computing paper
gets hefty correction, but concerns linger. How do the super chats work, dude? So, I basically
I was thinking like I just read them. like if there I’m I’m talking and there’s like a cue
or something like that, I like genuinely guys, I I don’t mean to be rude about the the the chats
and um but it’s just like I like to be totally engaged with the person that I’m talking to. So,
I am like focused and lasered in, but I realize there’s like people that want to make a point and
they’re trying to engage with chat and trying to get me, you know, to to ask a question or make
a point and I just I’m not I can’t do it. So, um I was going to make TTS. I was going to um uh
I was going to you could just put the the Venmo is in the um in my in my prof my link tree. Um but I
I realize that not everyone wants to come on here to ask that question. So, you know, if you if you
have something you want to say or if you have a question, you know, that I think that having like
a super chat’s a cool idea just to to let to let you interact with the guest to put I think the
the Venmo um you can put it in the description. Um I No, Jen, I was thinking um one at
a time, but there’s a Q, you know. So, that’s what I was thinking. let me know or
if if I missed your super chat or the Venmo um thing I can just Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Yeah. And the Venmo text. Oh, sweet. Thanks, Shoodle. Thank you. So, um I
want to keep it one at a time, but just allow people to ask a question without
hopping into voice. You know what I mean? There was It was a physician on last night and she
wanted to um Thank you. Why is that happening? I was um I was playing with some of this stuff.
I was playing I also was playing with these things. Um I was playing with this stuff.
This is pretty funny. These are hilarious. So I don’t know, guys. I just I’m just
figuring this stuff out. You know what I mean? So I thought it was funny, but I don’t
know. I don’t know, guys. I’m learning this stuff. I’m like a total boomer and these the Tik
Tok filters. I’ve I’ve not played Bioshock. Um, okay. Here we go. We can we can read this one. Oh, really? Oh, that’s funny. Okay.
Thank you. Thanks, Anna. All right. All right. The journal science has lifted
an expression of concern on a paper claiming evidence of major major quasi particles and added
new details. What? I don’t even know what that is, guys. I am so I’ve I’ve only done physics like
since high school, you know. This is like a we’re learning together here. I have no idea. Okay. A
key study claiming to provide evidence of Majerana quasi particles, I have no idea what that is, has
received an extensive correction five years after it was published in the journal science. That’s
like the premier American research. It is the the best American paper and also like one of the top
two top three in the world. So there’s cell nature science CNS that people call them and uh that it’s
incredible. So if you get published in science, it could make your entire career as a scientist.
So to have like you make it into science and then have them put something in there that is
taking it back saying that it’s not real, that would be devastating. That would be
devastating. Oh, Nico, what’s up, dude? What’s up, Nico? How’s it going, man? Oh man,
I didn’t want to interrupt the paper. I was going to get confused. Um, I wanted to ask you
about this. So I I was uh once at a tech startup and we interviewed a microbiologist. Mhm. And um
someone told me, “Hey, she’s controversial.” And I Googled her and she had a science paper that was
redacted or retracted and she was claiming that uh bacteria could use arsenic instead of
Have you heard of Felicia Wolf Simon? Dude, I heard about this. I heard about the arsenic
paper. That’s crazy. Yeah. And and you know, and the thing is like I asked her about it and
she had a really good answer where she said, “I did really good work.” She was an astrobiologist.
She said, “I did I did good work.” And you know, it was ambitious. Maybe my conclusions were a
little bit um bold, but that’s what you need for a science paper. And the whole community just kind
of turned on her and called her a grifter. Damn, dude. This this is it. So this is just
published July 24th, 2025. 15 years later, science retracts arsenic life paper. Despite
study authors protests, belated decision on on widely disputed 2010 study pleases some critics
but puzzles and dismays others. Just the first paragraph. The claim was striking. The criticisms
ferocious. A 2010 science paper reported that a microbe found in the inhospitable waters of Mono
Lake California could, unlike other forms of life, use arsenic to grow. But the journal has retracted
the work. But instead of closing the books on one of its most infamous papers, the decision has
stirred the old controversy and sparked new debate on when the scientific refere should be formally
corrected. So that is really tough. Several long studied one second just this part. Uh, several
long-standing critics of the research applaud the retraction. The move signals to readers
that the paper is quote seriously flawed and quote University of California l uh Los Angeles
geneticist uh writes in an email. That’s tough, man. That’s a really tough thing. I I would um
I would that’s tough. How long is it okay to to re to retract, I guess, is the question. Well,
the thing is it was like really controversial when it came out and then the New York Times
so I met her a couple years ago. The New York Times recently did an article on her and then a
week later science retracts the paper, right? Um and she was on this was like a little bit of
a LinkedIn beef where she’s like, “Hey guys, this is a hit piece. I don’t know what’s going on.
Like I’m a legit scientist.” And and it was really difficult because what she was explaining to me
is she did some work at NASA, right? And and it ruined her career. Like she published the science
paper and it just kind of like was this mark on her career that um that’s awesome. Yeah. But it
was like scientists kind of like turned on her. Um, so I it’s this really interesting thing
where like science is this amazing platform, but I guess it can it’s a double-edged sword
maybe, but it’s brutal, man. I mean, it is brutal. That’s why that’s why conspiracy theorists don’t
last because they just literally cannot stand that heat. They they really can’t. It’s not the the the
amount of um science we’re talking about. Sorry, we’re talking about science mag. So science
mag is the the publication the institution you know obviously is is separate but um science
mag is incredibly worldrenowned I mean it is literally the the biggest thing but but science
as an institution is incredibly difficult and science mag is even worse I mean you literally are
kind of renowned for doing a a study with science mag and then they will hit you with okay now do
another study basically basically to show that um that yeah it’s me that was that was all me.
Thank you. I I picked it out all myself. Thank you. Um so it’s it’s brutal, man. It is brutal.
Science as an institution is very hard that but it’s it’s the peerreview process is is very
difficult and even if the the peer reviewers the three that you get assigned they you know
you you don’t the court of public opinion still exists which is what happened here. Do you do
you have a beef with the peerreview process? I’ve heard about some ways to have improve it.
It is tough. I mean, I’ve had some reviewers like we had a nature nanotechnology paper and you
know, one reviewer was talking about how this shouldn’t be published because uh there’s not
enough biology and too much nanotechnology. And then the next reviewer was like this shouldn’t
be published because there’s too much biology, not enough nanotechnology. and you’re just like
copy and pasting what the other reviewer says to the other one. You’re like, “This is we’re
trying to meet you in the middle here.” And then the editor kind of like comes in and says
makes the final call and be like, “Okay, well, he addressed, you know, addressed the concerns.”
And um it is tough. It is tough. Uh there there’s some crowdsourcing open-sourced ideas where
you can kind of like have an open period where people have like an open comment period where you
make a criticism and people can upvote, downvote, uh have like a side panel conversation. um people
are trying different aspects, different ideas on try to improve the peerreview process, but at the
end of the day, man, you know, there isn’t that many world experts in these subjects. And this is
this is also why like the conspiracy theories work so well because as you go higher and higher in in
science fields, like there’s not that many labs. Um, so I read I read a piece in science in
December of last year which said that it plotted the number of retractions over time. Yeah. And
they’ve been going up and that makes sense. And it was saying like are is it that the peer reviewing
process is getting bad? Is it that scientists are it science is getting so competitive now that they
this author was saying maybe scientists are like cherrypicking data a little bit more like in at
the graduate student level and it’s like making it through um but it was essentially presenting a lot
of mechanisms as to why retractions are going up. I also think maybe there’s a lot of grad students
now more than ever, right? Um but it was like um a really interesting paper because I don’t
think it’s I think there are cases where people fake data. I think those are really rare because
it’s like a really that’s like a really big stain. That’s like a that’s like that’s that’s definitely
like the worst thing you could do in science. But um I think I I have seen cherry-picking
before myself and I think it’s just a natural bias that people have, right? I did. I did. Thank
you. Test. Cool, dude. The first first super chat came in. Test. Hello world. We got a hello
world super chat. Thank you. Thank you. Um yeah, dude. Cool. Thank you for doing that. I
appreciate you. Um, thank you. Thank you, Sheep. Um, it’s there’s a lot of different ways
in order to verify something now. There’s a lot of different um ways of retesting something,
you know, and lots of different ways you can um verify something. So especially when it’s like
data science related and stuff, you really have to publish all your code. You got to you your o the
science your your data has to be published. It’s it you know there I’m a huge fan of open science
in general. Like I think that honestly papers um should be publishing. Um there’s Jen. Yeah,
look at that. Boom. Look at that sub that sub icon. There you go. Um the I like the idea of
publishing the notebook as well on top of it. I know it’s a really arduous and it sucks but
I think that the raw data should be there. Um I think I know Dr. Can you imagine though having to
publish your your lab notebook with it? It would be very tough. But, you know, you do have things
like the Alzheimer’s stuff where you have 20 years of research that has been completely uh stymied
because, you know, the western blot images, they literally went to Photoshop and they just
copied and pasted bands where they thought that they should be and people found out they um they
found out that it’s completely uh faked, you know, and it’s just insane. So I I feel like you have
to do something to make especially honestly especially if it’s data science you have to
publish the code because that’s the only only way to actually make sure you can verify it you know
you have to be able to like maybe have a docker image or something that people can download.
So then it’s like all the data all your plugins everything is right there and then you just um
go I’m sorry Murphy I didn’t see your your thing your question. Yeah, that’s a good idea. I like
the the patenting process in 2012 transitioned from a a first to invent to a first to file
system. Yeah. And when it was a first to invent, the lab notebook was like a legal document, right?
So it was like a lot of companies really forced very meticulous work and you needed to have
a witness sign off on it at the end of your workday. So it was kind of it felt like there
was a lot more kind of like integrity with that. Yeah. And then after that kind of dropped off, I
started seeing lab notebooks become optional. And now I see them completely digital, which is has
pros and cons, but um yeah, anyways, man. Um yeah, good to good to hear from you. Good to see you.
Good glad you jumped on. And um yeah, just wanted to kind of throw that in there. Yeah, thank you. I
appreciate you. Thank you. Thanks for Yeah, thanks for getting on, dude. Always always good talking
to you. Likewise. All right. Have a good night, man. You too. All right. Give it up. Give it up
for Nico. Everyone. Give it up. Boom. We got sound effects, guys. That’s where we’re going. We’re
doing it. We’re doing it. Big fan of the stream, Nico. Everyone. Um. Okay. All right. Thank
you guys. Thank you so much. All right. Um, I’m trying to like figure out how to
I don’t know how to get my screen to to go off, but um anyway, let’s figure out how. Let’s go. Oh, Nico, I know. We’re trying, man. We’re trying.
We’re trying here. Having fun with it. I’m having fun with it. I’m uh I’m feeling I’m feeling myself
more here. You know what I mean? We’ve done Today is like a whole is a full week of streaming every
day and I’m getting my groove. I’m getting my um feeling like I’m expressing myself more in in
this space and being getting more comfortable. So, it’s been really fun. Um I really appreciate it.
So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, we’re doing it. We’re doing it. Uh, my link tree is in my profile.
It should be at the top of my profile thing. Let’s see. I’m a microbiologist,
PhD, and I I normally do um uh molecular biology is usually what I’m that’s
what my that’s what I do. There’s no link tree. Um, let’s see here, guys. Sorry. One
second. I will answer chat. One second. Um, where did you work? Um, I worked at BASF.
So, we were um a German company that had a US Oh, that’s so weird. That’s Boom. Um the So yeah, basically we were um I’m not selling
anything, man. We’re having a good time. What did uh So basically BASF is a German company. We had a
US site that did enzymes um there and basically we were creating u products and uh Yeah, dude. Yeah.
And uh they employed about 50 people in San Diego and we had our patents and we had well basically
we had enzymes. It’s a chemistry company. So they had enzymes that they wanted to explore and find
in biology that helped their chemical reactions. So there was and I was a part of the making
strains in order to facilitate and help that product. So there was you know pharmaceuticals
that were made from those strains that kind of stuff. And basically tafflord I see just give me
a second. The problem is that when Trump did the tariffs, basically we were we all you were hit
by the the tariffs because now we our labor is is connected to that and they had to ship materials
in from Germany in order to do the the plant work here in order to make the chemicals here
because we had to strain, right, that I created, but then we had to go to a plant in Michigan.
plant in Michigan had to create things and um so we were impacted by that and on top of
that when he stopped all the science spending uh for all the agencies basically we had
a bioervices side of the business that we didn’t have any customers anymore. So the
the places that we sold our services to uh stopped buying them. So that was that was it
that was the problem. Um, all right. Next guest, Havl Lord. Welcome in, dude. Welcome in.
How’s it going? Hello. How are you, sir? Good, man. I just had a question about how you uh go
about your business as a microbiologist. Um, okay. I know in clinical microbiology
you you uh can determine the presence um or absence of a particular bacteria in a
sample by measuring the colony forming units you use that similar unit in in in your work
in in research as opposed to clinical work. Um so basically I’m genetically modifying them you
know so what happens is so so colony forming units is for chat it’s basically you have millions of
cells that are in a broth liquid broth but then when you plate them basically only a a certain
percentage of them are actually going to be able to plate are actually going to be robust
enough in order to grow on solid augur and um basically go through uh a that change. And
in biology, in molecular biology specifically, what we do is we try to select for cells that
only have the genetic changes that we want. So for example, if I have inserted a piece of DNA
into an organism, well, I only want to select for the cells that have that integrated piece of
DNA. So how do I, you know, what would I do? Well, it would be really easy to select for those
cells if I inserted a resistance cassette, right? Where it’s an it’s a antibacterial thing
where it’s going to kill all the bacteria except for the ones that have this gene that creates
this protein that creates a defense mechanism for the antibiotic in the in the the augur. So,
it’s like basically fundamental to molecular biology to do this. We grow that in um liquid
culture. We grow them to a point where they’re in a healthy exponentially growing part of the
stage. It’s called log phase. When a bacteria first gets into a media, it’s called the lag
phase. And then it starts accumulating more nutrients. It starts growing more rapidly. And
just as it’s coming up at exponential growth, boom, that’s when we put DNA into the uh cell.
And um and then basically we plate those and we’ll plate maybe man millions and million hundreds
of millions and then maybe a thousand will be able to actually plate and we’ll see colonies
form. So then we count the colonies and then we figure out how much DNA that we uh started
with and then that is with the dilution factor and and how much we plated basically we’re able to
surmise transformation efficiency. So that that is uh it’s integral like what with what we’re doing
that we have it’s a screening process. So yeah, there there’s there’s like the the clinical
microbiology that is looking for kind of like a kill curve and that kind of stuff, but in my
work, I like to genetically modify things and I like to use that selection media as a way
to screen for those mutations that I want. Interesting. So it sounds like you do use this
unit, the colony forming unit to measure. Yeah, I’ I’ve heard that the the CFU underounts
the the presence of of bacteria in the sample because you’re only looking at the bacteria in
a particular group which is the forming unit whereas there might be solitary bacteria outside
of it that are still living but just didn’t form a colony. Is that true? Exactly. Exactly. That’s
what I was talking about at the beginning where you’ll have ones that that are good but they’re
just not in the state that is ready enough in order to you know be able to withstand that
type of medium change because it is pretty pretty difficult to go through. So I was wondering
it’s in clinical work you tend to just leave those out because you’re using the CFU to um determine
as a threshold for significance for treating an infection and you just tend to leave those. But
I’m wondering maybe on the research side you you want to quantify those ones that are outside
the typical CFU measurement if you’re looking for like genetic changes or something. I don’t
know maybe you have to be dude this is a great question. So this is what a hemocytometer is for.
So a hemocytometer is a way that you put it’s a slide a special slide that has a grid pattern and
basically you count the cells that are inside that grid and then again you know the dilution factor
you know how much how much volume is in there and then when you count the cells then you’re able
to kind of back calculate and just see how many cells per mill there was and then on top of that
what you do is that you do a dilution gradient. So you do one to 10, one to 10, one to 10 like
four or five times and then that gets Hey Rocky, thanks for coming in dude. Um that you you
compare those you compares the C uh cells per mill to the plated CFU and boom that’s uh that’s
how you do it. You can do indirect measurements to to surmise that once you’ve done that work
and that’s the those are direct measurements for how to know how many cells per mill there
is but there’s indirect measurements as well. So there’s a spectr photoometer approach. So
spectr photoometer is a way that you can um actually figure out that hey uh we have a we have
a cell wall that has a certain nanometer of those uh you know bonds and then you basically try to
excite those specifically. So 600 nanometers is what we do for yeast and then you can actually
indirectly back calculate based off of that how many cells per mill you have. But it’s very hard.
you have to do the work that you were talking about before. You can’t just like go right to it
um because everything is a little bit different. That’s completely fascinating. So, thank thank
you. Uh you’ve given me a new uh topic to look up is hetometry. Cool. Thank you. Seytometry
in general is like sci-fi. It’s something that would be on the enterprise and um like what is
it the there’s the the um uh there’s the liquid chromatography and then there’s a way that you
cell by cell the fluoresence chromatography I think is dude there’s the the there’s yeah a cell
sorter is basically does a lot of that stuff. So the cell sorting will put a a tube of single cells
and look at each one of them and see whether or not they have a specific fluorescent wavelength
of like of protein that you need and then it’ll put it into a tube. If it doesn’t have the tube,
it doesn’t have the fluoresence, it’ll put it in a separate tube. So it’ll sort one by one do and
you literally have just a a collection of only the ones that you want uh that that that show up with,
you know, cell sorting there. It’s incredible. I mean microscopy has taken off in an incredible way
uh recently. I did a lot of microscopy work with uh my PhD work and it’s it’s amazing. Uh the you
know the confocal microscopy and stuff is so cool. It’s so confocal microscopy is kind of like
the same technology that they use in order to uh to to do laser cuts in your eye where it’ll
have a wavelength but it’ll not have enough energy until they both collide and then you’ll be able
to see kind of like a wavelength excitation but only for like a micron or two microns wide.
So you can actually like two microns at a at a at a level just just slice through an organism
and you can see exactly where the proteins are, exactly where the dye is. Um, I did it for my
carbon nanot tubes because I had dye on the DNA and then I wanted to see if it was actually
inside the chloroplast and well the chloroplast has these things called a chlorophyll and those
are basically the solar voltaics of the the you know where they can actually bring in a bunch
of the energy. So the idea is let’s excite that chlorophyll, right? Let’s excite that. So we know
that it’s in the chloroplast. And then let’s like specifically because with with the confocal
microscopy you can hit exact wavelengths like we’re talking to the nanometer. So excite the
chloro chlorophyll specifically um and excite the the die specifically and then see where they
are if they’re in the same spot. And then that’s a bunch of you know data analysis that you need to
do to see how many pixels are overlapping where and what you know the in the 3D plane and all that
kind of stuff. But that’s how you do collocical localization analysis. So what’s really cool is
the cell sorter that we were talking about that you were mentioning before. They can do that now.
So they can do confocal microscopy with with cell sorting. It’s just it’s so cool, man. It is it
it’s just taken off in a way that um it’s so fun. Well, you’ve given me two things. Confocal
microscopy and heytometry. I’m going to go read. Nice. Nice, dude. Dude, have fun. Awesome.
Awesome. Cool. Have a good night. You too, sir. That’s cool, dude. I did. Yeah. Image J was like
is what we used. Yeah. Image J is um I mean Fiji, but Fiji is just image J, which is the which
was the joke, but uh you know, Fiji has all the plugins and stuff for image J and it’s uh it’s
cool to to use that and see that. Um thank you guys. Thank you guys. Thanks for coming in. Um,
so yeah, it’s uh it’s really cool. It’s so yeah. Um, infrared. Yeah, I had to use a lot of
infrared for my uh for the carbon nano tube stuff and ultraviolet because that’s Hello. Um,
what is this? Let’s see. Does this work? Oh, it said say welcome to stream but it’s
not working. Um. Oh, nice, dude. Yeah, the custom the custom the the custom ability
of uh ImageJ is really cool. Okay. Um Oh yeah, dude. Rocky’s here all the time. He’s such a
nerd. It’s so cool. I think we’re converting him, guys. He like tries to hate watch, but he’s
actually here more than anyone else. I can see the stats. I can see his watch statistics. He’s
here all the time. So, I appreciate Rocky a lot. Um, oh dude, will we see any gains against citrus
greening from the Asian? Oh man, that is a really good question. That’s really tough. That’s a
really tough question. Um, you really have to do like gene therapy. You really have to go against
it. Um, that’s it’s a huge problem. The citrus blight and that that what you’re talking about,
it it significantly impacts a lot of citrus in the United States. It’s getting to um a lot of Florida
and um so that’s that’s just really bad. All right, next guest. George accepted. Britney. Oh my
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vaccines collapses under his own evidence. All right. Let’s check it out, Jen. Yeah. Thank you,
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and um you guys are just so kind with your with everything and I really appreciate you. Okay, this
is Jen’s super chat. Thank you, Jen. Kennedy’s case against mRNA vaccine collapses under his own
evidence. This is from Stat News. It’s in the show notes in the Discord. If you want to follow along,
it’s there. Join the Discord. Imagine a whole group of people that love science and like talking
about science in Discord. It’s really cool. It’s really fun. Okay. Um JFK Junior’s evidence doesn’t
support ending the research. It makes the case for expanding it. So this is an opinion piece out of
Stat News by Jake Scott. And uh Jake Scott is an infectious disease physician. So this is going to
be a good person to listen to listen to. Right. So, when Health and Human Services Secretary
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. terminated $500 million in federal funding for the mRNA vaccine research
last week, claiming he had reviewed the science, his press release linked to a 181page uh document
as justification. So, just to let you know, like this is the type of stuff like that $500 million
that he’s he’s seizing there, that’s impacting all the research that’s being done currently. But then
also think about all the the companies that are using that money now, right? So you have all the
oligosynthesis, the primer synthesis, the you know the the kits that they need to use, all that kind
of stuff. So that’s how I got wrapped up in this, right? It’s the secondary impact. They are taking
out the federal funds, but then downstream of that are private companies, American jobs, American
manufacturing, American patents, and they’re taking it. Um, and it’s and it’s awful. So,
back to the article, a re I reviewed Kennedy’s quote unquote evidence, and it doesn’t support
ending mRNA vaccine development. It makes the case for expanding it. And you know what? That’s
actually this actually happens a lot. Genuinely, the number one thing that that conspiracy theories
theorists do not want you to do is to actually read the things that they link you. Cuz if you
do, I there there are so many papers that they link and you look and you read and it’s just a
complete misattribution where they are taking one sentence and they’re spinning it and the the
author would be like, “Uh, no, I did not say that. I would never have said that, but they they take
it and they link a DOI number and people kind of take their word as evidence and that’s and it’s
awful. So this this document isn’t a government analysis or a systemic review. It’s a bibliography
assembled by outside authors that according to his own title page quote originated with contributions
to toxic shot vac facing the dangers of the co vaccines. What? So, it’s an ideological un This is
crazy. So, it’s just an ideological organization. It’s insane. The lead compiler is a dentist, not
an immunologist, vyologist, or vaccine expert. That is crazy. Um, exactly. I love that, Dr. T.
It is. Um, nice reference. That’s sick. I’m I’m with you. I love Drag Race. I watched Drag Race
from season 4 all the way on. Incredible show. The most important show that’s ever been in the
existence of the world. I I really do feel like that. Okay. Anyway, but sorry. Um NIH director
uh has suggested that the funding has terminated due to lack of public trust in mRNA vaccines. I
wonder why. I wonder why. Like maybe if you sew discord enough in a technology, people are going
to start wondering and have suspicion. I mean, come on. But mis misrepresenting evidence to
justify policy decisions is precisely what erodess public trust. Exactly. If we want to
restore confidence in public health, we need to start by accurately representing what the science
actually says. So true. This author is spot on. Here’s what Kennedy apparently missed. Most of the
compiled papers are in vitro studies, laboratory experiments in test tubes or petri dishes. So in
vitro outside, they taken something and they’ve taken something outside and they’re doing DNA work
or RNA work outside as opposed to insitu. Insichu is where it is as it is. So in vitro taking it
out in parts in situ inside the car. So think about like how different you were you would um
you had a new part for an engine in a car. Imagine now imagine if you took the entire car apart
and the engine apart and then said oh yeah my uh my part screws in really well. Um, oh, invivo
is inside the living is is so in vitro is outside, invivo is inside and then insitu is inside where
it is. So those those are the three difference. So you can actually inv have something in
vivo but that’s still been um sequestered in some way if that makes any sense. Okay. So, um,
documenting effects of SARS CO2 spike protein, not vaccination. These laboratory experiments, while
limited. Oh my gosh, it’s saying I’m inactive, guys. I’m not moving around enough. Sometimes
Tik Tok’s algorithm is wild, man. I don’t get it. It’s saying I have an inactive an inactive
live. Okay. Okay. Um these laboratory experiments while limited in their clinical relevance and
unable to establish causation consistently show harmful effects from the spike protein produced
during infection. The implicit message throughout infection produces spike protein that can
cause harm. Therefore vaccination which produces controlled amounts of spike without the
virus making copies of itself makes sense. Some of the papers included in the bibliography are even
implicit about explicit about this. One examining neurological effects concludes that quote the
benefits of CO 19 vaccinations far outweigh the risk of the neurological complications.
Exactly. They’re being misattributed. How? I would be so mad. I would be so mad if I
was this article. I was this guy, you know, cuz it’s just like I I did not I did not sign up
for this. Another review in the packet directly compares infection with vaccination and concludes
vaccination is the more favorable option for protection. Kennedy is literally citing evidence
that contradicts his position. Man, this I’ I’ve seen this with climate science, too. I’ve seen
this with things. They like um anti-science people will take they’ll cherrypick data from a paper
and they’ll take specific points out ignore all the other points and then make another graph that
only has the cherrypicked data that they want to show. It’s absolutely unbelievable. The documents
methodology reveals how this happened. The authors of the compilation acknowledged that quote most in
vitro studies here were used here used recombinant spike proteins or spike proteins in pseudo viral
vectors not actual vaccines. They grabbed papers using any mention of spike protein whether
from infection or vaccination and presented them as evidence against vaccines. The apparent
deception runs deeper. Multiple cited studies injected spike protein or mRNA intravenously
into mice inducing myocarditis or even directly into brain tissue routes obviously never used in
human vaccination. Uh vaccines are injected into muscle tissue. I see Liam we’re just going to go
uh do this uh packet this this article first. The packet includes studies with hypocample injection
of spike brain infusion in mice and injection into the cerebral spinal fluid. While these
experiments help identify theoretical hazards, they reveal nothing about the realworld risks from
the intended intramuscular injection in humans. When it isn’t misreading studies conclusions,
the complication uses them in an intellectually dishonest way. For instance, it misleads about how
long spike protein stays in the body. It studi it cites studies showing spike protein from SARS
cove 2 infection lasting months driven by the virus continually making copies of itself to
suggest vaccine spike persists similar this uh similarly which isn’t true. The mRNA breaks
down by then guys. Um but vaccine spike typically clears within two weeks. Exactly. the author
is right on here because there’s no replicating virus that the viral load of the of a of an mRNA
vaccine is only going to be the amount that the RNA is is injected into. Right? So, uh it can’t
self-replicate. Those who assemble the document know this distinction but obscure it. They’re
lying through obiscation, right? Um the safety Um, one second. Sorry guys. All right. Um, the safety distortions
are egregious. Quote, the doc Oh, sorry. The document highlights anaphilaxis rates
as high as 1 in 2,280 doses from selective studies while systematic CDC surveillance
estimates 4.5 per million doses. 400 times lower. Let’s read that one more time.
The document highlights anaphylactic rates as high as 1 in 2,000 doses from selective studies
while systemic CDC surveillance estimates 4.5 per million doses. 400 times. So they’re they’re
off by two and a half orders of magnitude. That is insane. That is insane. They emphasize
myocarditis in young males which peaked at about 100 per million among males ages 16 to 17 after
the second dose without mentioning that SARS cove 2 infection causes myocarditis at higher rates
with worse outcomes or that rates have since dropped the background levels. Most damning is
what’s absent. The compilation ignores the Danish nationwide study of approximately 1 million J and
one booster recipients that found no risk a no increased risk for 29 specific conditions.
It emits the global vaccine data network analysis of 99 million vaccinated across multiple
countries finding no new or hidden safety signals. It excludes CDC data showing that unvaccinated
had a 53fold higher rate of death during Delta, demonstrating the critical importance of mRNA
vaccinations. The Commonwealth Fund estimates COVID vaccines prevented approximately 3.2 million
US deaths through 2022. That is unbelievable. 2.2 million and we already had 1.2 million people
that died. So that is absolutely incredible. And and honestly the um that just goes to show
that what he was saying or RFK’s little thing and I I did a a video on it. It’s pinned on
my profile. But he was saying that the vaccine becomes inact in ineffective if a single uh virus
mutation happens and it’s obviously not the case, right? We’re we’re that saved 3.2 million
lives. The papers themselves often contradict the compilation’s framing. Multiple studies
state we cannot infer any causality from their findings. The document’s own sources describe
challenges as surmountable, not fatal flaws. Yet Kennedy presents these tenative findings which the
authors themselves call preliminary as definitive evidence requiring immediate actions. Beyond COVID
vaccines, Kennedy’s decision undermines pandemic preparedness. The 22 terminated projects
worth $500 million represent the expensive latestage development that Barta uniquely funds
phase three trials manufacturing scale up and strategic stockpiling that private companies
can’t afford. Kennedy promises quote safer, broader, and whole virus vaccines end quote
as alternatives. Apparently unaware that these take six months minimum to update v versus weeks
for mRNA. When the next pandemic virus emerges, those extra months will translate directly into
preventable deaths. I’ve analyzed covid vaccine safety data extensively since 2020. There are
real discussions to have about rare side effects, risk communication, and policy trade-offs, but
those require honest representative representation of evidence. What Kennedy has done is different.
Most papers in the compilation found in infection related harms, evidence that actually supports
vaccination, yet he is wielding it against vaccines. He’s citing sources that explicitly
support vaccination while claiming they oppose it. He’s not expecting anyone to actually do their due
diligence and actually look these up. That’s Let’s be real. He’s just saying, “I have 100 papers that
that say this and people he’s expecting people to blindly support him.” This isn’t scientific
disagreement. It’s either staggering incompetence or willful misrepresentation. When half a billion
dollar decisions affecting pandemic preparedness rest on such foundations, the scientific
community must respond clearly. Kennedy is using evidence that refutes his own position
to justify dismantling tools we’ve desperately needed when the next pandemic arises. All right,
thank you. Thank you, Jen, for the super chat. Thank you for recommending the uh the article that
is I actually have another one, another OpEd uh editorial talking about this um that we’re going
to go over soon. Um but thank you. I appreciate you. So, we got um Liam and Rocky coming up
next. So, uh let’s bring let’s bring Liam in. Liam, what’s up, man? How’s it going?
Good, dude. Long time no talk. Yeah, right. Um it’s been a little bit. I’ve
stopped by your live a little bit. You’ve been busy. You’ve had some guests.
Yeah, man. It’s been fun. Do you know what uh VI Vic is? VICP. VICP. No. Can you
look up the largest payout for VIP? The vaccine injury compensation program.
Largest payout. Okay. Largest payout. Okay. So, it’s some blog. That’s coming up. This
is I’m a little little concerned. The largest payout in vaccine injury compensation program is
$100 million. This is from the AI according to MCT law. Okay. How much is that payout, bro? $100
million. What does it say? Um, the settlement was awarded to an infant who suffered severe reaction
to the MMR vaccine. The money has to be paid out over the infant’s lifetime. Measles, MS. Uh,
yeah. So, you you believe in the you believe in the measles and MS and all that that vaccine,
right? Yeah. Gave it to your own child, right? Oh, yeah. For sure. Do do you know what technology
that is though? Do you see that this you see that someone had an injury for the rest of their life
because they got this and they got a settlement of of how much money for it? $100 million. So, it’s
not completely safe, right? Is that is that is that what we’re gathering? Yeah. Nobody’s saying
that vaccines are 100% safe. Nobody said that. Oh, okay. There we go. Never heard this from
you before that they’re they’re 100% safe. What? That’s not true. That’s not true at all. You
should stick around and and watch a little longer, bro. I mean, obviously there are like vaccine
injuries we use and study them. Gonerus is something that we found through science. So,
it’s obviously it’s I’m still kind of dead I’m still kind of dead set, honestly. Greg on
the whole you Liam are part of the cause of unaliving millions of people because of people
like you. You contributed dude. You did 19 you know. Um you did. It’s it’s it’s despicable. But
what I’m getting at is this is this is education on your side and love and you have a duty to
do the research. Okay. with the knowledge that you’ve been given. Okay? And you’re supposed to
give this to people in humility and love and then they’re supposed to but it should be like hey this
is what I recommend but you are free to choose in this country and you you do whatever you want to
do with this and there’s no shade being thrown either way. Okay. But when you’re up here saying
that you are the you are one of the major deciding factors whether people live or die because of
your bad choices that you’re making. Not fair, bro, at all. Still not fair, dude. You’re you’re
contributing to it. Absolutely. And you’re pushing misinformation right now. Yeah. Absolutely. So, um
wait just just to show just to just wait. You have to allow me to to to respond, bro. What kind of
vaccine technology was that one that that the MMR vaccine? The one that we were just speaking on for
the mis measles and mumps. Um I don’t remember. Go ahead. Sure. It’s not the mRNA one
that they’re defunding. I know that I’m sure that it’s not. Yeah. Yeah. So, does
that make any difference? I’m not You think that I think that they’re the same? No, I
don’t believe that they are. No. Okay. So then does that make you that for me that means
that there was probably some type of egregious error in some like a QC error or something like
that because that is a super safe vaccine that normally should be super safe and there’s
probably an egregious error that that that happened in order to have that happen especially
with a payout like that. You don’t believe that everyone’s body makeup is the same, do you?
And we all have the same reactions to vaccines. You think we all you think the human body
overwhelming majority do? Yes, you can make vast generalizations and say yes, it’s safe and
effective. Yes, you can absolutely say that. That’s nowhere near true. Yeah, vaccines are
safe and effective. I can say that 100%. There are stuff that that certain people with certain
blood types or whatever put in their body and they don’t even have a reaction to it. Okay, penicellin
for one. Okay, there’s some people that take it, it won’t even bother them. Other people can’t
even take it. Yeah, they’re allergic. There’s some people that die from from a allergic reaction
to Tylenol every year, but that doesn’t mean that Tylenol is, you know, is deadly. Would you agree
that Tylenol isn’t deadly? I maybe with certain amounts of it. Yeah, you have to take it, you
know. Nope. Just a normal dosage. People die every year. So So would you say that Tylenol is a
deadly deadly drug? the medical field is telling them to sell it off the shelves that it’s it’s
safe for everyone or what? You’re you’re saying a one in a million event defines the entire thing.
And it’s not even one in a million. It’s like one in a billion. Yeah. You’re saying that because a
one in a billion event, therefore the entire thing has to be castigated and and the entire uh program
has to be in doubt. Now, so you have to say the same thing for water. People die every year from
water. Would you say that it’s not healthy and safe in order to drink water? Um, yeah. If
I think that you need to be educated on it, you need You need to be healthy. You need to be
educated to drink water. Yeah, dude. Oh my god, bro. Are you serious? So, wait. You think that?
Wait a minute. You think that the water that’s being pushed through a tap in somebody’s home
is No, that’s not what we’re talking about. Fluoride is completely safe, by the way. And it
absolutely is. I’m talking about people that over drink water and like water chugging contests and
actually die from overconumption of water. I’m not talking about fluoride. Well, it’s just one’s own
stupidity. Okay. What are we talking about? Okay. But no, no, but Exactly. Exactly. So, it’s one
company’s stupidity and their stupid MMR like preparation and now all of vaccines have to be
under prep under under criticism. I mean, no, that’s not how it works. Absolutely. Absolutely
they do. Yes. No, that’s not how it works, dude. that gross negligence isn’t a way to to impugn the
entire system. That’s that is why you have these payouts that are so egregious because they should
have been picked up with QC. They should have been there should have been multiple spots where they
were picked up and they weren’t. And that is gross negligence and that’s why these payouts are so
big. If I went to my family doctor and said, “My child, Greg, Greg, my child has chickenpox.”
Oh, no, not my child. My my uh my brother’s child has chickenpox and I need to be my I need to have
my child around that child. What should I do? Is it safe for my child to to be around another child
with chickenpox? What do you think the doctor would actually say? I mean, you’re saying that
this you’re hearkening back to like when you were a kid and you were saying, “Oh, we used to have
chickenpox parties and you used to get get it done and all that kind of stuff.” Look at you. You’re
deflecting from reality. No, I’m not. I know exactly what you’re talking about. I know what
you’re talking about. We have an immune We have an immune system that is being broken down by Zpacks,
unhealthy living, all kinds of BS that we’re putting in our systems, okay? Shitty environment,
shitty food, okay? And we’re trying to push the pharmaceutical stuff down our throats, okay? We
take one and then we need six more to compound the issues of that one that we take. Okay? That’s
what’s going on, man. It’s a money business. It’s a money industry. Oh my god. You’re So, I
don’t disagree that there are perverse monetary incentives and I’m not a a fan of healthcare being
profit driven. So, I I agree with you there. And if that’s what you want, I I’m I’m there with you.
But I’m I’m assuming you’re a capitalist. Are you a capitalist? A form of one. Yeah, for sure. Okay.
So, then let’s talk about this. How is the market going to correct for these gross negligence? How
would it how would it happen? You tell me. Well, you’re going to have other companies that are
going to have a you know a testing, right? you have you all the companies have all the other QC
availability in order to make sure that like I mean Johnson and Johnson for example would love in
order to find graphine sheets and mRNA vaccines by Madna because that means that Madna is going to
go out of business and then they can fill that void. So there is like a competition aspect within
global capitalism where these companies compete in order to make the best product. So you’re again
you’re talking about a global conspiracy without with hundreds of companies throughout the entire
globe and it’s like it’s just it’s nonsense, bro. That it’s that that’s where you lose me. Yeah.
Well, I just think that we have an immune system that we take for granted and I think that we can
definitely um you know uh compromise our system by putting things in our body, okay, such as vaccines
when we could ultimately our immune system could fight off of the these bacteras and these things.
Okay, for sure. Liam, bro. Okay. Why we fight off? Okay. Yes, I understand, dude. I understand.
But guess what? Why? Okay. Why did humans for hundreds of thousands of question Liam, please?
Hundreds of thousands of years. I’m answering your question right now. I’m going to We’re actually
having a nuance discussion and I’m not going to be your parrot, bro. I’m gonna We’re gonna have
a conversation and I’m not going to just bark like your dog. Okay? That’s how this is going to
work. What did I just ask? Stop. Stop. Listen to me right now. The way you’re I am going to answer
it. I am answering it with a an arudite nuanced position that we are going to build on. And that’s
how the conversation works. The whole point of human development for the last 200,000 years
was a a a death upon death of these preventable diseases. Well, they weren’t preventable, right,
at this at the time because they there wasn’t science in order to support it. Germs were
killing people at incredible rates, bro. The the life expectancy of humans was at 30 years, 35
years. And they would they had nothing but robust like immune systems according to you. The highest
testosterone levels that you could possibly have because you didn’t have any microplastics. You
didn’t have any fluoride in the water. You know, there’s all these things that you’re talking
about. Wait, stop right there. Stop right there. You You believe in microplastics? Well, of course
I I believe in microplastics, but I’m saying that they didn’t think it’s good for our you think it’s
good for our body. I They didn’t exist 100,000 years ago. So, according to you, that’s when human
should be we should be thriving. We should be living to 200 300 years old. I mean, do you think
that we humans were living to those ages before all these things? I think that humans were living
a longer lifespans for sure. Okay. Oh my god, bro. Are you serious? How? So, so you’re doing
like the Abraham like 800year-old like Bible verse things. Is that what you’re believing? Why not?
You know. Oh, Jesus, dude. Oh my god. All right, my brother. Wait a minute, bro. Listen. Listen.
Here we go. My son. My son, your time is up. I’m doing a 5minute timer. I We can’t just do this all
the time, but I’m telling you, timer up here. I Dude, I am a timer. I I do have a timer. I do have
a timer. There’s no timer here. It is a timer, though. It’s a there’s there’s a fiveminute timer
in now because explain to me how we get Wait, no. Listen listen. How do we fight off the common
common cold? How do we fight off the flu? How do we fight off chickenpox? How do we do that? How
does the human body do that? Yeah, antibodies, dude. That and that’s how you that vaccines are
great in order in order to give people an immune response without actually giving them a disease
that could kill them. That’s the whole idea. So my brother, my brother, I am telling you, I am
telling you, I’m telling you, Liam, you your goal and your homework right now is to go and find
me evidence that humans lived for hundreds of years before the advent of pharmaceutical drugs.
That is your homework. Okay? Genuinely, I can’t wait to for you to see it, but there’s people
in there. That’s not even the point. Thanks, man. It’s not the point. We live in reality. Okay.
All right. Thank you, Liam. Everyone, thank you. Thank you. I I appreciate Liam. We got to go on
Liam. Everyone, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So, I appreciate Liam sincerely, but we have
to we have other people in the queue we have to go through. Um Okay. Okay. Rocky’s next. We got
a backtoback, guys. We’re going back to back. Rocky, dude, my number one fan. I Dude, I I see
your stats, Rocky. You’re You watch the stream so much. you. So, you’re like my number five alltime
viewer. It’s so cool. How’s that possible? I don’t I’m just I’m just moving on. Yeah. I don’t think
so, dude. You’ve been in chat the entire time, you know? So, I just I appreciate you. I appreciate
you a lot. Well, I’m just halfway retired, so I got a little free time, you know. So, nice.
Nice. Okay, cool, man. Yeah, you know, you’re always welcome, bro. I’m genuinely You and Liam
and everyone, you guys are always welcome in here. I I I genuinely appreciate you. So, I mean, Liam’s
a good guy, you know. He’s he can he can uh say what he pleases and apparently he does jiu-jitsu,
too. So, we’re going to like roll sometime. So, I can’t wait. It’s going to be really fun. You
know, I play guitar. He plays guitar. We man. Cool. Cool. We’re not all bad people, you know? I
I don’t think that you are, man. I just think that you’re just misinformed. And that’s the thing.
Like, that’s that’s the problem, you know? Like, we’re No. Yeah. Yeah. It’s okay. It’s okay. But I
don’t hold it against you, bro. That’s the thing. I don’t hold it against you and I think that we
can all learn and be better people. That’s the whole point. And I’m trying the same thing. Hey
Omar, how’s it going? I’m trying the same thing, bro. I’m trying to, you know, get better myself.
So, I I get it. Well, you know, I just It’s just a shame that we have to have two parties like this
and we have to fight, you know. Dude, I really feel like it’s just us against the billionaires
and that’s like that’s what it is genuinely. I I really do believe that, man. And there’s only one
side and one party that is really so bootlicking to billionaires and it’s just it’s disgusting and
that’s what really hurts hurts my soul, you know. Yeah. That you know and then the medical field
the way they they keep giving you medicines and it never has any cures. It just you know it for it’s
not true though dude. It’s not true. You know, I cured cancer with with with drugs I made inside
of an algae chloroplast non-hodkins lymphoma with stage one. Like we we we have drugs that cure
people. Gene therapy cures the cancers now. It’s it’s true. The viruses is just a whole new ball
game, you know. It sucks, you know. Okay. So, so before when we had talked, you did not you did
not agree that SARS Cove 2 was real. And I and I’m I was making the argument that the same technology
and equipment and scientists that tell you that SARS CO 2 is real are the same ones that are
telling you that the flu is real and that regular corona viruses are real. Were you able to like
think about that or your response to that? No, I just keep thinking of what happened the past four
years, you know. Okay. And how the certain the vaccine companies, corporations, you know, they
got paid, right, to come up with vaccines. Is that true? I mean, so, so Trump, so Trump basically
fasttracked a lot of their uh, you know, and and allowed them to go through the stages. All the
same stages. They they did all the same stages, but they just did it more quickly. Well, I think
the vaccines came out when Biden was in charge, right? All of the development was with Trump. It
was the best thing that he’s ever done. It truly was. Well, well, then it’s it’s it’s pretty
corrupt then. And what? Because I know this for a fact that the Johnson and Johnson vaccine
got paid, right? And they No, they they actually dropped Dude, they dropped their vaccines because
of the the uh the increased mocyitis rates of their vaccine. So they dropped it entirely because
it wasn’t it wasn’t profitable for them. Yeah, you’re talking about you’re saying words. I don’t
know what the hell you’re saying. So I’m sorry. So, so basically there was an adverse side effect
for their vaccine and it was too expensive for them to um to make it anymore. So, they stopped
producing it. I I genuinely don’t I’m not trying to talk talk over you. If you if you ever do that,
please let me know. So, thank you for saying that. No, it’s just But they did get paid, right? Well,
they’re they’re for-profit companies, man. Like, I mean I that’s what you and Liam I like I I feel
like Do you guys know about MAGA communism? Do you understand what that is? You know, do you know
what that is? No, I don’t. I feel like you guys are communists. I’m not joking. I really I’m not
saying that desparingly because it’s just like this anti-corporate structure, anti-free market,
you know, you guys really seem to it’s Yeah, it’s I don’t understand why you guys are capitalists
and yet you’re pushing these things. In my mind, what Trump’s trying to do is is similar
to what a independent president would do, you know, aka Jesse the body of Ventura. He had
similar ideas, you know, as far as, you know, getting his company back, you know, to prosperity.
And that’s what MAGA is about in my mind. But how he’s shutting down American businesses, man.
American jobs, American manufacturing, American patents. Like I lost my job this week because of
Trump directly. Well, it’s a big mess. I mean, it’s that happens. You know what, bro? It was
there for 25 years, bro. And we have families, we have technology that we created, patents, like
how can you just write that off? Well, I mean, I worked for Delta Airlines for 14 years and I
took a I took took a 20% payup after 9/11 and I got sick of the [ __ ] cuz I had to get displaced
to two differenti cities to save my job. You know what displaced means, don’t you, bro? But no,
no, no. No, I do. But I’m just I I do, but I’m just saying that like what direct of course
I complain because it’s from a direct action between Trump’s tariffs and his this complete
gutting of the entire science industry. I mean, airplanes weren’t weren’t like completely
defunded by hundred billion dollars in the United States after 9/11. Bro, don’t you have an
education? Yeah, I have a PhD. Yeah. Okay. Well, you’re good. You’ll be all right, bro. Like, what
are you talking about? You’re It’s American jobs, bro. American families, American patents. Like,
you just don’t care about that. Why Why do you Why are you more likely to to believe Trump than
me? I had to move to save my job. So, what’s wrong with you doing it? There’s move to Europe. The
What are you talking about? You want me to move? You want me to not Do you want Do you want Do you
guys Do you want to lose all of science? You want You’re saying you science as an industry needs
to move out of out of the United States. That’s what you’re saying. No. That’s what you just said
to me. You should said I had to move into Europe. That’s going to hurt the whole country. What?
If you’re not here, it’s going to hurt the whole country. I think so. Thanks. Are you saying that?
Is that a question or are you saying that? No, I’m just saying if you did move, it’s going to
hurt the country. I think so. I think yes. science like moving uh and leaving the United States when
we are a technological powerhouse and we were the driver of science and innovation for the last 75
years and that’s why we are such a an economic powerhouse. Yeah. I think that that would hurt us
for now and for the last next 50 years. You know, and if this virus was real and when it happened 4
years ago, it is okay. Well, in my mind, it’s not. Okay. It’s But I mean, again, but see, why didn’t
why didn’t the whole world come together if this was a world problem and shut that Wuhan lab down
at least? Why is that? Because that’s not where it came from, bro. That’s not where it came from.
And the entire world did come. It’s the World Health Organization. It was the whole world. But
what if it did? Because that’s pretty much what I thought that the story line was what they,
you know, they they told us in the beginning, you know. No, it can’t. First, they scared
you with the bat thing and they scared you with the snake thing and some kind of animals
or, you know, that’s from raccoons. The raccoon dogs. Yeah. That was the intermediary. Yeah.
the the the scare tactics of the government, man. Just like they scared you on 911, you know
what? Oh my gosh. I’m not going to go there. You don’t want me to go there, dude. Bro, why why why
do you hate science as an industry? Why don’t Why don’t Why do you hate us? You told me to move out
of the country like that industry isn’t important. That that we can have mass layoffs in science
and that’s okay. You don’t want us to have any funding. you don’t believe any of our our data
and our conclusions. Like why why do you science made for profit not when it’s made for profit?
Dude, the university system isn’t made for profit and that’s why we funded there because that’s
the whole point. Foundational research isn’t profitable for 20 or 30 years and that’s why we we
fund it there. Okay. Would Dr. Fouchy be retired right now if none of this ever happened?
I mean, probably. Probably. Yeah. I mean, he’s 80 years old, dude. Like what do you mean?
What? You know, I’m just I’m just looking at the small things that people don’t think about. You
know, it’s just little things. Dude, how how do you how do you like again? Why are you so afraid
of things that you don’t understand? Why are you living in so much fear? Well, you know, in my
mind, what I my routine for the past 35, 40 years, vitamin C every day. Okay. In some fashion, way
or form. And I I get sick from time to time, but it’s just a sinus infection. I never get I
never had the flu since I was a teenager. Okay, this has been my rout and I’ve been to the gym
about three or 400 times in the past 35 years. Okay. And I’m not saying everybody can do this and
take care of their health, but I wish, you know, people would wake up and stop letting these
corporations just, you know, feed off, you know, the people feeding them this, feeding the these
all these kind of pills and drugs, man. I mean, rugs, you know. It’s just it’s just sad the
way it’s it’s come to, you know. But but dude, you know, I’m going to give you the same
question. And I’m going to give you the same question that I gave Liam. Why was the human life
expectancy 30 years old until 150 years ago? Well, I had an uncle lived to 101. So, exactly. Yeah.
I know. And he he he did he didn’t he didn’t take care of his health. How long How long did humans
live 100,000 years ago? You know, I have no idea, but I’m just saying 30 years about 30 years.
They said what they said a few about last year. I heard somebody say it on the news interviewing
some other doctor and he said about cancer. Doc, cancer is just bad luck. It doesn’t matter if you
if you spoke or do all those bad things. It’s just bad luck. That’s all it is. Okay? You know, all
right. I mean, everyone’s going to get cancer at some rate. I mean, it’s just you basically have
the amount of cancer like your age is the amount of cancer risk that you have basically. So, if
you take the average guy that you know, you know, just doesn’t take care of his health, he drinks
beer every day and compared to drinking vitamin C, you know, who do you think’s going to live
longer? Vitamin The whole thing with vitamin C is completely overblown, bro. Like, that’s what
I understand. Why do you understand that one? No. Why do you agree with that one Nobel laureate
and you discount all of other medical science? Why do you agree with him? Only thing I’m proud
of myself is I’ve been checked twice in the past 2 years. I have I do not have diabetes and I should
have it. Okay. Wait, what? I mean, so you eat enough sugar that you should your your insulin
levels are still whacked. Is that what you No, I don’t have diabetes. I mean, that’s normal not
to have diabetes, bro. Like, what are you talking about? Well, no, you couldn’t. Well, it it kind of
runs in my family, you know? It runs in a lot of people’s family. So, dude, it’s more of a cultural
thing. I It’s not like unless you’re a type 1 diabetic, man. Like, yeah, type two diabetes is
a is a learned thing where you’re just eating too much sugar for your body to process it. So, yeah.
Okay. So, I got I got other people in the queue. I gave you I gave you 12 minutes, man. Like, I
normally give you five, but please please queue up again. I I I want to continue the conversation,
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So, next up we got Michael. How’s it going, man? Hey, good afternoon. How you doing, Dr.
Greg? Good, man. Thank you. Actually, uh, early this morning, I thought you started uh
without everybody this morning because I saw uh your video uh with the antiaxer. Oh, and so
that was kind of interesting. I, you know, listen to that. But, you know, uh just like, you know,
with the you the two previous gentlemen there, it’s it’s kind of headscratching. Um it’s kind
of in a way common sense. You know, of course, I live in Texas, so you had everything going on
with the measles over there in in West Texas, you know, because people didn’t want to get, you
know, get their children vaccinated. Yeah. Um and a lot of things. And of course, uh, just it’s as
well kind of common sense, but you read a lot of things that a lot of illnesses, whether it’s, you
know, the cold or the flu or things like that, uh, are contracted from children. You know, the
children go off to school with other, you know, with other children, you know, they get sick, then
they take it home to their, you know, to their parents and other family members and things like
that. That’s how, you know, how a lot of adults end up getting sick. But you know, one of the big
things how uh Liam was asking, well, you know, how did people survive or take care of themselves when
there wasn’t any vaccines and things and things that you know, back in the old days? Well, number
one, either they died because they, you know, they they couldn’t uh, you know, shake it or they
were lucky enough to survive or the other thing is that, you know, they were separated from other
people. you know, all the the healthy people, you know, they separated them uh and isolated
them from, you know, other people and then, you know, they either died or survived. Yeah. You
know, of course, that that’s what happened. So, it’s just kind of interesting how uh a lot of
people like you said as well just refuse to accept science. Uh pro, you know, of course,
I mean, just because you don’t understand it doesn’t mean you can’t educate yourself. like my
I just started uh went and jumped on Amazon and I think I I found I’m trying to find a the
perfect book to try and read to understand a little bit more about what you’re discussing,
especially when you and another doctor, you know, are getting together and you start geeking
out. It’s like, man, that sounds so good, but I, you know, I need to understand more. So,
there’s that. Uh I think I found one. I think it’s like microbiology and and something for cool for
idiots, you know, one of the idiot books that that you can get. So, you know, I’ll end up ordering
that and then start reading that cuz, you know, it’s always good as well just to uh you know,
uh years ago, I I saw on 60 Minutes, gosh, this was probably back in the early 90s or late 80s,
uh uh Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, you know, he was already like 90 something. Bring
it back. Yeah. And he was talking about, you know, court cases, Supreme Court cases that he uh, you
know, uh, looked over, watched over, you know, from the 1920s and 30s like they were yesterday.
And if you were to close your eyes, uh, you know, he sounded like he was probably more like in his
40s or 50s. And they asked him, you know, how come you’re so, you know, cognizant, loosen, everything
else? He says, well, the the brain’s a muscle. you need to to work it out just like any other muscle
in your body. So, you know, he ends up, you know, I read a lot. So, I took that to heart and decided
I was going to start reading a lot more. You know, I thought when I was younger, well, what am
I afraid of? You know, at the end it’s like, well, I’m afraid of dying. I’m afraid of losing
all my hair. It’s like, no, I got now I got to have a different perspective now. So, you know,
now it’s just different things. But, uh, one of my favorite movies is Outbreak. Oh, man. It’s a
horror movie after the pandemic. That is a Oh, absolutely. Because I mean, are we I mean, are
we now back in another situation with him back in in the White House that we’re just one huge
catastrophic, you know, problem popping up again that we’re we’re really going to get cratered
as a not just as our own country, but I mean it what he’s doing with the tariffs and all the
other stuff, you know, not to get into politics, but you know, that’s hurting everybody around the
world, not just the United states and so that it just seems kind of you know interesting that that
something like that is happening and and it’s affecting everybody and and you know those people
on on the other side just don’t see it. They’re just uh you know just kind of taking it you know
then now all of a sudden they say FAFO now all of a sudden all these other people well I didn’t
vote for that well yes you did you just didn’t think it was going to happen to you so you know I
really like your show I enjoyed it you know again uh the uh you know the the antiaxer unfortunately
there’s still a lot of people out there and just you know to to to finish off here it just doesn’t
seem you know I guess it’s kind of common sense if you think about it you know with vaccines and I
know he was talked about the the child that died yes you know of course not everybody is going to
be immune to different things you know for the vaccines yes some people may have reactions that’s
like one out of that’s why they do pharmaceutical trials and things to test them out to see like
that and they don’t understand that. And it it just seems, you know, hopefully a lot of these
other people will will start looking and and uh you know, educating themselves on a lot of
those uh different things cuz science, you know, without science I, you know, we wouldn’t be around
u and it helps a lot of people and I think it’s it’s interesting to hear and uh just study science
itself. I wish I would have paid attention more in in school. The only two uh what is it? Elements
that I know uh are a uh what AU and H2O. I don’t know if you remember back in the day Barry
Goldwater who ran for president I guess back in the 70s. That was his uh his bumper sticker Barry
Au H2O because his name was Barry Goldwater. So that’s fine. All right. Well, dude, I think the um
I think man what you’re talking about is so true. I mean in political science it’s called tragedy
of the commons where people basically think about a you go into a park and the park doesn’t have
any trash on it. You know why would you why do and we’re paying all this money for this janitor.
Why do we need to uh to pay for this park janitor anymore? It’s just a we’re just it’s a waste of
money. There’s no trash to clean up. you fire the janitor or the, you know, the groundskeeper
or whatever and then now all of a sudden all the trash keeps coming up, you know. So, we live in
a world that is been completely radicalized and revolutionized by the existence of vaccines.
And we don’t have any scare. We don’t have any internal problem going to insanely large events,
hundreds of thousands of people in it. And there’s basically no fear of communicable diseases uh when
you go there. And that wasn’t always the case. You know, that wasn’t the case. And yet um we live in
a world where now um people are fear-mongering and saying and in injecting fear. And what it
really really comes down to is that people that are antivaccine are living in fear about
things that they don’t understand. Excuse me. The things that they don’t understand. They don’t
understand how it works. They don’t understand the process. So there’s other people um that do have
that knowledge and they are institutionalized. That knowledge is institutionalized but they don’t
have it themselves. So therefore they discount the entire thing. And and people are never going to be
an expert in every field. And it’s important that people trust the institutions, trust the process,
not because it’s an authoritarian thing, but because it actually has the research and the data
and the publications and the peerreview all coming together. It’s not just like an authoritarian
thing. And that’s, you know, science needs to do a better job of of not being authoritarian and try
to highlight the, you know, that’s what science, that’s what Fouchi was saying, by the way, when
he was saying, I am the science. Like, I I am like the the representative of all of this. And I
say it in the same way. It’s like, don’t believe me. I don’t I don’t want anyone to to believe what
I’m saying. I would love for you to check it out, to research it yourself. Figure it out. Like, read
the same primary literature that I’m talking about and come and give a critique. figure out your your
take on it and that’s totally fine. Um, but what’s happening isn’t skepticism, it’s contrarianism and
people are scared and fearful of institutions and uh science they don’t understand. So they
lash out and spread misinformation that’s pumped to them by AIdriven algorithms. And
they see, you know, unfortunately Liam and Rocky probably have their algorithms pumping
vaccine injuries at them constantly because they’re constantly liking it. They’re probably
watching all the videos. So in their head, they see video after video after video, article
after article after article of this. And it’s like I mean you we’re only going to be trained as a
human in order to look at pattern recognition and and the pattern is there for them. So in in a way
they’re actually really well informed. It’s just that they’re wellinformed on the bad stuff and not
on publications, not on data, not on analysis. And that’s what that’s what we’re trying to do here.
So thank you so much. I appreciate you coming in, Michael. Always fun talking to you. Oh yeah.
Have a good night, Doc. Have a good one. Yeah. Sorry guys, my wife tested positive for strep two
nights ago and I am I’m we’re getting through this guys. We’re doing this. We’re not stopping.
I got coffee and water. We’re we’re going um back and forth. Open. I see you. Uh
Business Wolf is next and then we are going Michael Rickman. How’s it going, man?
Dude, I love all the the the physicians, the scientists, everyone coming in here. It’s such
a awesome community of people that are trying to make the world a better place, and I um I’m so
honored that you guys are here. Like, genuinely, thank you. Thank you. Um Okay. Sorry. I can go on
forever about that. So, all right, BusinessWolf, how’s it going, man? Thanks for joining. Hey,
doc. How you doing tonight? Good. Listen, first of all, I was listen to the guy before the
first gentleman and yeah, I’m I’m I’ve always been impressed every time I see you talking to these
guys trying to explain something to someone who was absolutely giving no thought. Uh I just I
just had to say I don’t know if you caught it, but on the one hand he said he didn’t believe that
the Corona virus was real. Correct. But then two sentences later he said that it was created in the
Wuhan fact. It’s like okay which one is it? Is it not real or was it created in China? You got to
pick one or the other. Anyway critical thinking. Go ahead. Exactly. Now in the conversation that
I had with him before the ending was basically he didn’t believe that SARS Cove 2 was real at all
and I told him well prove to me germ theory then. Prove to me the germ theory exists. And that was
the highlight that I put out today. Um, prove to me that viruses are real. Prove to me that germs
are real. I haven’t I’ve never se Have Have you ever seen a germ? Have you ever seen a virus?
And the point of that is that the same people, the same processes, the same equipment that are
telling you that these microbes and these viruses and germ theory is real or the same ones telling
you that SARS cove 2 is real. So if you don’t believe that SARS cove 2 is real, you shouldn’t
believe that germs are real. And that is that is a huge problem that they’re you know I’m so
that’s that’s where I’m trying to understand how they are they do trust instit that’s a big thing
right they trust institutional knowledge to tell them that germ theory is real so now we need to
drill in and understand why and how they trust that institutional knowledge when it comes to germ
theory but why not with SARS cove 2 I think it goes to as I said, “Unfortunately, I think the
common denominator you’re going to find with a lot of those conversations is that they tend to be
MAGA. It’s hard. I mean, it’s it’s a sad thing to say, but the reality is they they just tend to be
MAGA.” And the problem with their reasoning right now is that they won’t accept any facts unless it
comes from a very limited source of people. Yeah. And unfortunately, even that very limited source
of people are not very bright. I I mean it’s just, you know, it’s just the truth. I I I’m I was so
happy to hear you talk about the other doctors and everything that are on here. I do have one serious
question for you after you respond, but but yeah, it’s it’s it’s still very concerning to me, the
overall trajectory of the country being I agree. Yeah. I mean, there was kind of like a crunchy
granola lefty kind of like thing that was, you know, against pharma and against pharmaceutical
companies and against capitalism. So, they didn’t trust any type anything that they
touched. And it’s kind of merged with this kind of like populist right Christian nationalist idea
of like I don’t need anyone to tell me what to do. um kind of you know it’s basically like anarcho
capitalism but it you know and and it’s a um it’s very odd. It’s it doesn’t there’s a lot of
different things that are coming together to kind of create an incoherent worldview. Exactly.
Bill Maher Exactly, Jen. Bill Maher repeats this the the anti-farmaceutical stuff, the the
vaccine skepticism, you know, and it’s and it’s ridiculous. It’s just there’s no no chance. Yeah,
I I I don’t understand it. But let let me ask you this. So, this is another one of those questions
I’ve always wondered. Never had an opportunity to speak with someone like you until now. So,
I appreciate the uh the uh the venue. Um okay, Big Pharmaceutical, we know that they have to make
money. We know that they have to make a profit. Is it true that pharmacies are more vested in
managing disease than curing disease because of the profit? If so, why or why not? What are your
thoughts? So, like a pharmaceutical company is going to be profit driven. That’s absolutely
right. But because they’re profit driven, what they’re interested in is creating a
better engineered product versus like novel breakthroughs. So people kind of erroneously
think that like pharmaceutical comp companies do research and this is this is common with the
singlepayer private provider argument where so people will say we can’t do singlepayer because
then all of the pharmaceutical companies aren’t going to have money and we we’re going to
lose all of our medical research and that just isn’t correct. So the medical research is
actually done at a university not profit driven because it takes so long in order to have
that uh happen. uh and then basically once the mechanism has been discovered and and that’s
understood now the patent is created and then now the the pharmaceutical company can create that
um but I mean it really it’s contingent on you know if that pharmaceutical company is seeing this
mechanism and they’re not giving any technological advancement like obviously another company is
going to come over and take that technological advancement and push it forward. Like there really
is no reason to styy the better implementation of that drug um just because because they could
make more money. They I don’t think that they would like genuinely. Um you know I mean this is
also the weird the weirdest part of these people are anti-harmaceutical companies so they’re
antivaccine but actually the real conspiracy would be the pharmaceutical company is the
actually the one that pushes the antivaccine disinformation because they make more money as
a pharmaceutical company by people not taking vaccines getting sicker and using hospital stays.
So that’s the actual thing that the antivaccine people would be the pharmaceutical shills. You
know that that would be how it would actually work if if the conspiracy was actually real or if
it was any of it made any sense. But you know they don’t obviously it’s just a uh it doesn’t make any
sense and that that isn’t true. So um and that’s where we’re at man. Yeah. It’s it’s really weird.
I mean, it’s it’s it’s odd to be so hyper. Um, yeah, thank you, Michael. Yeah, it’s I’m
physicians in the chat, so I’m really interested in seeing what he says. No, please. And
if they’re if they’re giving you the information, I’d love to hear what you’re saying because I’m
trying to listen to you and read as well. So yeah, it’s it’s being like as a capitalist, you have
to understand that there are other people in the market that are going to be trying to improve the
the product, you know, or or if it’s not a patent, they’re trying to create a new drug that does
similar improvements that you could sell and create um uh have fewer side effects and all that
kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Request up uh Michael. It’d be awesome to talk to you. Um, and then
yeah, so I just feel like it’s it’s kind of like perverse. It doesn’t make any sense. Um, there’s
there’s a a a whole um Do you want do you want to talk to to Michael too, Business Wolf? Please
bring him up. I do have one other one other I’m curious what he says. I I mean, he’s he’s directly
related to this, not me. Yeah. Yeah. Come on up. Nice. Hey, how’s it going? Good, man. It’s the
first time I’ve done this actually, but I was listening to you and so I’m double board certified
cardiothoracic surgeon. You know, you have to be a general surgeon before cardiothoracic surgeon.
So, I just actually recently started TikTok and I’ve been making videos all about the facts.
So, you know a little bit about the human body, huh? A lot. Done quite a bit of heart surgery,
you know. Se several thousand cases. But Damn. Impressive. the BS the BS that these people pedal
you know in in terms of in terms of like let’s just take cancer drugs you know for every one
that gets approved nine never get approved in the average time to from when they you know drug
development takes about 10 years so you know the problem with cost and the pro it’s passed on to
us and that’s a government issue because Medicare is not allowed to or the government’s not allowed
to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies. So the cost is passed on to us. Um and you know, yeah,
it’s not good. But the bottom line is these same people who say, “Oh, they would never get an mRNA
vaccine, but I wrote an article. Would you get an mRNA vaccine for cancer? Oh my god, of course.
Of course.” And I’m like, “Well, I thought it’s a conspiracy.” And they’re like, “Well, cancer is a
different disease.” So, you know, it reminds me of the all the stories of people that ju just as the
respirator is putting on them in the hospital and they’re dying of COVID and they go they ask the
nurse, “Is it too late to get the vaccine?” And you’re like, “Bro, oh my god.” Like, oh my gosh,
dude. Like, I I had two friends die who were, you know, ER doctors of CO. Oh, that’s awful,
man. I’m so sorry. One of my one of my buddies, I mean, he he’s okay as an ER doctor, but he
told me as some guy sat he’s desing down into like the 30s and his last dying wish was, “Can I
have a fresca?” Okay? You know, and wow. And you know what people don’t understand is um 19 million
people have been saved by the vaccine. Okay? And and there is no conspiracy. You know that. And
you know, I mean, you know how many times I’ve been called a pharma shell? I’ve never taken one
cent from pharma. Like, never, ever, ever, ever, you know, and you know, like to me, you know, I
heard you talking about Fouchy. Guy’s a hero. He singlehandedly he singlehandedly we would not
be where we are today with with AIDS without, you know, if he wasn’t around. Ebola, Marovo
virus, you know, everything. and they just say he’s some show when the guy devoted his life. He
could have been making so much money, you know, in the private world. So, you know, I mean, I
appreciate, you know, just been listening to you and it’s a pleasure for somebody not to be selling
some BS like products, you know? I mean, that as you notice, that’s what everybody’s doing, right?
Yeah. Yeah, it is. Can Can I Michael Michael, can I ask you guys both a question? I got two
doctors up here. You know that I feel special since I got both of you here. And and you and
you mentioned you mentioned uh Fouchy and I know he did a lot of work with with HIV. Here is
a really good question I have every time I see the drug for the HIV and it talks about reducing
the viral load. Please help me understand how we develop a medicine that can reduce the viral load
of the virus to a point that is undetectable, but we can’t kill it off and cure it. That’s that
is a hard step for me. And I know it’s something scientific that I’m missing. And like I told you
last time, doc, I’m a part-time geek. So, this is really interesting to me. This piece probably can
answer this better than I can. Yeah. So, HIV is a retrovirus. So basically it can go from RNA to DNA
and then integrates into your your your genome. So once it’s integrated into your genome then
basically it creates it can integrate in all your cells and once it’s there now you have a lot of
drugs that can stop the um stage that you go from DNA to RNA which is transcription. So the idea is
that you have a lot of uh molecular biology tools that are you know stopping that from happening. Um
so there’s it’s you know there’s a promoter region before the genes and you can stop the you know the
binding of the machinery in order to that creates and makes the protein. Um, you can, you know, you
can do a lot of different molecular biology tools basically, but what you would have to do in order
to remove HIV from someone entirely would have to edit all their cells. And as a differentiated,
you know, human, there’s so many I mean, think about how many cells you you have.
And um, it would just be so hard. I mean, we do human cell we we do human gene editing right
now like at the very very very start of life. um or sorry I’m so I meant like the when that
when it actually happens um the so it’s it’s super super once it differentiates it’s basically
super hard and you see the same with plants by the way you can’t just like you know if if I’m trying
to gene edit a plant it’s like it’s going to be at the very beginning the single cellled uh spot not
at the uh you know the land plant that you see so that’s the main that’s the main problem there’s
a lot of gene therapy is, you know, things that are that are popping off though that are really
making the rounds um through crisper and gene editing and stuff. Yeah, we just we just didn’t we
just you’re the first using crisper in in a kid, you know, in that pediatric patient. I forgot
what the disease was, but it’s the first time, you know, but I mean, it’s no different, you guys.
So why are we seeing lung cancer in younger people who never smoked and because they have a driver
they have a mutation driver an eGFR mutation a rat a Ross and um the only thing we can ascribe
it to is right now it seems like the evidence is air pollution um you know I mean my ex-girlfriend
just died last year at 51 never smoked stage four lung cancer you know and and amazing and she had
an EGFR mutation and yes there are targeted drugs that can you know can treat you but eventually
you develop drug resistance and there’s no way to get rid of the gene in your body you know that um
so so you know we’re at its infancy but you know the main thing is there’s lots of things that
are treatable curable is a different word and you know and and that’s the main thing you know
that people need to understand with any disease especially cancer one of the first questions
they need to ask an oncologist for example is is this treatable is it or is it curable and most
things you know late stage are not curable they’re treatable and say you know it’s just goes back
to your question about AIDS exactly we can’t get the virus out of the cells we can treat it okay We
can keep you low and people are living now but we can’t get rid of the virus. So that’s why there’s
no vaccine. Interesting. Listen guys, I don’t want to monopolize time. That was Thank you both. That
I actually understood that. Um yeah, I actually understood that made sense. So I I appreciate you
guys taking taking that time to explain that to me. So yeah, of course, man. Yeah. Somebody just
asked, can you test for an EGFR mutation? Well, you can. I’ll answer that. So obviously wait first
tell me what was the EGFR? Um that’s epidermal growth factor. It’s just it’s one of the drivers.
So we we have certain there’s something called nextgen sequencing. So pretty much every solid
tumor um should have when they do a biopsy they do something called nextgen sequencing. The problem
is it is not done in 70% of patients in the United States um who have a solid tumor. And um you
know it’s a shame because that determines whether you’re going to be sensitive to imunotherapy
whether targeted therapy whether you have a gene or chemotherapy and it is the standard of care
but I can tell you that most people so if you have um lung cancer every lung cancer needs to be sent
for what’s called nextgen sequencing so you can identify if they have an actionable mutation
because we have oral drugs that target that mutation. Okay? And and I can tell you that I get
in arguments all the time with oncologists who are like, “Ah, it’s not really necessary.” And
and unfortunately, a lot of it’s socioeconomic driven. It’s, you know, poor people don’t get it
done. People on Medicaid don’t get it done. And then there’s geographic. You know, my first job in
heart surgery was in I grew up in Beverly Hills. My first job in um heart surgery was in Eastern
Kentucky in Appalachia and it was you know God help you if you get a serious disease there
because you don’t get the same quality of care as somebody does you know in a big city or has
good insurance. So got it. It’s criminal. Let me get out the way so you can let some other folks
up. I appreciate you both of you very much. Thanks a lot. Oh, thanks man. Thanks for saying that.
Have a good one. Business Wolf. You’re always welcome man. I love talking to you. Appreciate it,
brother. Thanks, man. Whoops. Shoot. Michael. Oh my gosh. I’m sorry. He left and then if you want
to keep talking, you can jump back in. Michael, I’m sorry. He left and then your your thing went
right up there. But I’d love to continue talking if you wanted to. Um um thank you. Thank you
for joining. And if you want to join again, that’s all good. But um Nico, yeah, I know.
I’m sorry. See, usually people can’t like join uh leave the call. So, I have to kick them or
disconnect them and then but sometimes they they know how to. So, it it push pushes it up. But,
um let’s see. Let’s see. I think I can find you. Let me find you. Let me find you. Um, we’re trying to find you in the
history or the Oh, this this this. Nope. Sorry, guys. One second. Slight technical
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Good. Sorry, my cough is getting worse. I’m sorry, hope you hang in there. Um,
thanks, man. Well, first of all, I wanted to say the other night I was
listening to you and you were talking about your kids and I wanted to say I hope
you know that we may not agree on everything, but I do hope the best for you and your family
and I think that Thanks, man. Of course. Um, however, our conversation got somewhat cut
off because I wanted to talk a little bit about gene editing. Okay. Um, which you had been
discussing with somebody else. Okay. I just I saw you Michael. It’s just let me let me talk to Joe
real quick and then um there’s also Francois. So, I’m sorry. I am the guy from the Venezuelan
goolag. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Wonderful. Go ahead, bro. Yeah. The timer is on. Sorry. Sorry. Just because
there’s people in the queue. I For some reason, can I can I leave and come back because for some
reason when I joined it turned the screen, so I can’t see anything right now. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
I’ll get friends. Just give me one second because I don’t know why Tik Tok does stuff like this, but
Okay. I’ll kick you and then you can come back. Okay. Sweet. Um, France, I see you. There you are, Michael. I don’t want to subject these
guys. I respect you too much as a uh Oh, okay. Bring France on and just get five minutes.
Okay, I’ll I’ll let Fran talk and then we can talk after. But it’s for some reason I can’t see
anything, so I’ve got to close out the app. Give me one second. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All
good. All right, guys. All right, Francois. Next up, Francois. How’s it going? Oh, he’s
accepted. There he goes. How’s it going, man? How’s it going, sir? Uh, remember the
last conversation? Uh, I got something cuz I I kind of got fascinated by microbiology. You
saw that AI scan like a mammoth and they found like something that could be useful. How do you
feel that microbiology will use AI in the future? Is it a big thing? Is it big in your in in your
in your field? I mean B I mean in biology right now a lot of it is kind of a little overblown.
Um I do think that like they you know they got the Nobel Prize for Alphafold um last year and
I thought that that was a little early because I mean they had had theoretically made you
know 500 different pharmaceutical drugs but a lot of times when we test those it is not they
don’t work. Um, we’ve had a lot of AI improved proteins like rubiscoco and stuff and then we
test it versus the natural evolved uh, you know, proteins and they don’t do any better. So, it
really is kind of um, it’s it’s not up to the hype just so far yet. But like as you know in terms
of like neural networking, deep learning, um all these different ways and modalities of like what
people think of as AI, um it they do have a ton of promise and they’re incredible. So I do think that
yeah, I think it’s going to be huge in the future. But did did you see the news I saw about the
mammoth where they found uh this was antibacteria and it was kind of fascinating and they were
like what going on here? I I I I I could go. Um, it says I mean I Googled it. AI
woolly mammoth. Woolly mammoth. And they found something very fascinating in
it. Okay. Bacteria like it’s fascinating for me. It is probably more for you. I’m
not a microbiologist. Uh, AI discovers new antibiotics in ancient microbes. Is that
it? When they maybe Oh, let me go back to it. I’m not seeing it. This would be a
good thing to put in the Discord, bro, so you can give it to me. Um, looking at a nature paper right now. Deep learning
enabled antibiotic discovery through molecular deextinction. It’s not woolly mammoth though. I
mean theoretically it could be extinct mammutism again like it like from old DNA and and they found
they could find like a thing to beat bacteria like they they used to do. It’s fascinating but like
I I’m again I’m not a microbiologist. you are, but uh let me try to maybe select it and and Okay.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you could put it in the the Discord. Um that would probably be the best way
to to give me the link or um I can try to I can’t link it in the chat. So, if you could just like
put the um the title in the chat and then I could just Google it. I’ll put it in the chat right now.
Oh, that’s that’s not that’s not what I want to be. That’s a [ __ ] That That’s a anti-man that
that Forget what I just said. I’ll send it back. Okay. All right. While you’re doing this, I’m
just going to get Joe in and then we can you can come back in and we can discuss it.
Okay, Joe. Sorry. I I I got it right now. I just got it. Okay. All right. Um well,
let’s let’s do the Okay. Okay. Ma’am, an antibiotic from that is for
me that extremely fascinating. Oh, it’s a Okay. Oh, it is. Oh my gosh.
That was it. That was that nature paper. So, you’re That was a um That’s really
fascinating, isn’t it? That like Well, what’s your What’s your view on this? Cuz I really
want to know what’s your view on this. Okay, let’s let’s do this as the as the top of the
hour um science thing. Once we’re done with Joe, I’m going to I’m going to break and we’re
going to read a paper and we can we can read this. But I I don’t know. I I got to read
it. I got to read the abstract in order to know. So I don’t I can’t just read something.
But basically No, sorry. What? So I mean yeah the basically you I mean the the idea that
there are a lot of different antibiotics and microbes that existed that have you know unique
pathways and and drugs that could be you know uh useful is is well known and it’s like kind of
the the foray of you know biology research man like 99.9% of animals that have ever existed
have gone extinct. So, it’s like there is a a whole world of uh of stuff out there that we
have have yet to discover. But I’ll read this on um I’ll read this on the top of the hour after
I’m done with Joe and then we can um and then you can hop on and discuss it afterwards. Okay.
Okay. That’s fine. Okay. All right. Sweet. Thanks, man. Okay. Cool. Let’s get Joe back. All right.
Awesome. Thank you, Dr. T. Yeah, I found it. I put it in my in the show notes, guys.
Still doing it. I can’t see the timer, but I’ll bear through it. I don’t I don’t know why
it’s happening. I can still hear you. Roger. Um, so I don’t remember if the if you remember the
conversation you having yesterday regarding Gediting, but I wanted to continue that. uh one
of the points that have been discussed was you had said and I had heard this elsewhere that I
guess like 80% of our genome is latent either viral or parasitic DNA. Do you remember talking
about that? Um yeah there’s basically insertions from from that. I don’t I didn’t I don’t remember
saying that but I mean it is like somewhat true a lot of like endogenous retroviruses do have like
mutation like insertions into our our genome. Yeah. I I I’ve heard that elsewhere. So it’s
like essentially like 80% of DNA that we we have actually isn’t uh being actively you know I guess
manifested. You might have a better scientific term than I do. I guess what would you say? uh not
manifested but expressed, right? Um they’re not expressed but it’s they’re called endo so inside
genus endogenous retroviruses. So viruses that put their genomes inside of our our genome. Yeah.
Okay. Exactly. So as far as gene editing goes, I know there’s two major categories. So it’s the
viral which I know that we use for editing of like mRNA. Um and then the the second type is uh
through I guess like what you call like the ring bacteria, right? Are you tracking the the ring
bacteria? Do you mean like the ringorm? Yeah, they have. So they have ring bacteria which
essentially uh it’s a it’s a form of parasitic bacteria that can extract um from one organism
and transfer to another another organism. horizontal gene transfer. Uh yeah, I’m not a
scientist, so you probably know the uh vernacular more accurately than I do. Okay. Um so I’m
speaking layman’s terms, but I think I accurately describing it. So kind of my my my question is is
that barring AI, and I’m not I’m not saying that it couldn’t happen. I have not seen a study
and you could correct me if I’m wrong where essentially they’ve developed a novel new sequence
or insertion of a new trait. So what I mean is like let’s use the trait of invisibility. Um no
no species that we know of h I I know I’m but you know what I’m saying. Okay because this is kind of
a thought experience. Okay. a trait that that that we don’t know of uh that is newly developed uh
and then spontaneously inserted in our DNA. Well, we have seen we have seen deletion and replication
of existing traits from one genome to another genome. So we can see that through like you know
mice experience experiments where they transfer um like resistance to certain types of poisons
uh camouflage. I think you I think you know like that the general idea I’m going for but for me
logically it it is indicative of the idea that there was a certain pool and you’ve talked about
how 80% of all species and I would probably also posit or extrapolate that this is true of traits
as well have probably died out. So to me it seems like I apologize for my cough. I’m with you, bro.
I’m with you. I don’t know. Something’s going around um that there was there was an existing
gene pool whether or not it was within the the human species or within it was in uh I guess
the expression of all species, but we haven’t seen the creation of new genes. So, we’ve seen
the transfer from one gene dome to another. So, um I’m kind of curious. We’ve definitely seen new
genes. We’ve definitely seen direct any anything you know that’s a niche can be evolved to take
advantage of that niche. So like nylon is a good example of this. Nylon is brand new and basically
that it’s a food source that bacteria has evolved in order to break down in order to to use. So it’s
evolved since like the 1950s, you know. So it you know there are new genes and new proteins that
are evolving constantly right but that protein already exists in nature right no why would
there be a nylon in nature basically so what happens is let’s say that there was let’s say that
there was another thought experiment right let’s say there is a bacteria 100 years ago that just
mysteriously and somehow creates the conditions So that you have a nylon. Well, the that bacteria,
how are they going to do? Are they going to improve their fitness by making a nylon when there
isn’t any nylon? Yeah, that’s my it’s not it’s not. So, they’re going to die out. Basically,
metabolism, it can be seen as kind of like a checking account. If you’re spending money on
proteins that you’re not using, that aren’t useful for fitness, then those bacteria are actually
going to die quicker, right? Because they’re not going to have the resources and the amino acids in
order to make proteins that are actually useful. So, no, I I actually agree with you and that was
the point I was driving at is that it’s almost as if nature um somehow finds this path of most
efficiency to find which proteins already exist within a given environment and then provide
the solution to to the problem. And I don’t know if you’re familiar, but when I was growing up
through school, they taught that there’s obviously you have animals that catabolize, metabolize um
energy from other organisms, and then you have uh plants which photosynthesize. But now we know that
there’s uh bacteria that are capable of surviving off of energy from radiation as well as heat,
right? Have Have you heard about those by chance? Yeah. I mean, yeah, there I mean there’s there’s
lots of different energy sources that people are, you know. Yeah, for sure. Um I don’t know about
the the radiation I I believe I know what you’re talking about. It’s the one that like Chernobyl
or something has like bacteria actually deep they have it in Chernobyl but there’s also deep within
the ocean they found a type of bacteria that can uh you know get energy from magnetism as well
which I think is insane right so to me it kind of it illustrates this notion and I also have there’s
and they’ve gathered organisms off the outside of aircraft in space now. So, Mhm. I’m curious if you
agree with the idea that somehow life persists and exists and no different than matter on a certain
level. It’s innate to the universe. I I would label it maybe philosophically as like natural
law. Um I don’t know. What are your thoughts on that as a microbiologist? I mean, I do think that
there’s life outside of Earth for sure. And I I do think that there’s um you know, life and evolution
is a physical process, you know, that happens. Uh that the accumulation of genetic mutations
in a population and then how those things are um selected for, it just naturally happens. It
even happens with things that aren’t considered living, which is, you know, viruses. Uh, and even
chemicals that can be, you know, evolved through, uh, chemical processes. You know,
that’s what Francis Arnold does. And, um, so it’s called directed evolution. So, it
Yeah. I mean, it I think there’s life everywhere in the universe basically. Can I ask you one off
topic question by by chance? Have you ever done psychedelics at all or My friend has my friend has
fungal mushrooms that have psilocybin. Yeah. So I have and I I think a lot of people talked about
this experience where essentially when you’ve done it uh you have this uh perception that all of
matter is living and I think that Mhm. you know, Allah’s scientific method, the scientific method
dictates that uh there’s certain things that are living there or not, but then we have that gray
area of of viruses. But I almost wonder if as time goes on, our scientific understanding of what is
conscious or living might evolve further because I think that we have this um sort of mantra
this set of assumptions based on materialism which you know I don’t I don’t personally agree
with. Um I do think this is thing that I I tried to think about is imagine us finding bacteria
or yeast. Yeast would be better because it’s a ukarotic organism. Imagine us finding yeast in on
like Mars or something like would we imagine that as intelligent life? And I think that we don’t we
don’t think of yeast as intelligent life on Earth. But I think that all the things all the things
that it it can do and how how efficient it is and how there there are things in that yeast can do
that we can’t understand yet. You know, it’s like um there’s there’s a lot going on there that we
have yet to understand. So, I think that honestly if we found yeast, you know, a yeast microbial
community or something on a on another planet, it would be really hard for us to to wrap our head
heads around that. one, it would be really cool just to know that there’s life that’s everywhere
in the universe, but then also like how our perception of intelligence would change. Okay, I
can’t see the timer, but I know my time’s running short, so I’m going to make one last question
for you. Um, and then I’ll head down. Um, so with the example of yeast, I’m going to use kind of a
parallelism and say a cell within my body, right? Um, I don’t know to be conscious. I don’t know to
be intelligent, but I do know that it has a set of instructions and it’s following it no different
than I am on a chemical level because like I don’t know if you’ve listened to Spolski out of uh
Stanford, but he’s the top neuroscychologist and we figured out that essentially our perception
of what we think is our free will is actually, you know, lagged behind by like 02 seconds of
what our brain actually decides on its own. Yeah. Exactly. Peripheral versus central nervous
system. Yeah. Yeah. So you know exactly what I’m talking about. Um so then my question is is
that do you think that perhaps like our you know disciplinary or deterministic definition of what
intelligence is should be adjusted because perhaps my cell doesn’t know that it’s me right cuz my
brain is manifesting my consciousness but on some level that cell within me is me. It is it is
absolutely me. Yeah. However, it’s not all of me. Does that make sense? No different than the latent
viral DNA that’s part of me, but it’s actually me, you know? Mhm. Yeah. I mean, it’s like that whole
like how much of a ship can you replace until it’s no longer a ship anymore? And like, is it a new
ship? And it happens to us constantly. You know, our cells are constantly being re redone. And um I
mean that’s that’s what I that’s even true of the human mind though cuz with each new experience
we’re evolving and changing. Okay. So this is the singularity concept that Kurszswwell Ray
Kurswell talks about where like if if all we are is a collection of neurotransmitter ratios in our
brain then therefore that ratio can be exported into a computer and then that’s how we could live
forever. and that at once that that singularity happens, everyone will be able to be um remembered
or live on forever. So, it’s I mean that’s it’s an interesting concept, you know. I think that it you
know it is cool. Well, see and I think it’s kind of encoded in some of like ancient philosophy.
They call it as above so below. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard that, but it’s the idea that
like like or or in chaos math you have mandler sets where you can zoom in infinitely, but
there’s certain power laws that are, you know, universal to every manifestation or like operating
system that you or fractal that you choose to go down. All right, I’ll leave it at that. Thank
you so much. I appreciate you coming in. That was a good that was good. Yeah, I’m not I’m not
a scientist, but I I enjoy talking to you. So, yeah, dude. Yeah. Thank Yeah, dude. Thanks
for thanks for requesting. All good. Have a good one. Yeah. Take care. Sweet, dude. So,
we got um a request. We got a request for a um a paper we’re going to read. Dude, thank
you guys so much. Thank you for the likes. Thank you for being here. Thank you
guys. Thank you for everyone the nice messages in chat. Okay, cool. Oh, nice,
Mike. If I can call you M. Michael. Um, cool. Thanks. Thanks, Jay.
See you again soon. Inshallah. Shalom. Um, all right. That’s interesting.
The deep learning enabled antibiotic discovery through molecular deextinction. I have put this
into the show notes on the discord. So if you want to follow along this paper, every paper, all
our primary research is all on the the discord. So it’s check the link in my bio that’s all
there. Okay. This is a 2024 paper in nature biomedical engineering. This is Juan at all.
So molecular deextinction aims at resurrecting molecules to solve antibiotic resistance and other
present- day biological and biomedical problems. So what can things that have gone extinct tell
us or help us um to understand what’s happening? There’s a lot of molecular mechanisms.
There’s a lot of proteins out there, but how do we know which ones are good or not,
right? That’s the big problem. There’s so much out there and and interestingly, there’s a lot
of environmental DNA. So just in in general, bacteria, think about bacteria not as necessarily
an organism, but as a chassis where the chassis can uptake DNA from the environment and it runs
all of that new DNA as a new part and to see if any of it makes any sense. And then if that
part makes sense and it does well then that piece of bacteria proliferates and that it takes
over the population. So it doesn’t make sense in our human brain and in our human way of thinking
but in the span of a bacteria that’s millions and millions in a very small amount and the ability
to horizontal gene transfer which is the ability to spread DNA to your brother and sister that is
um a a quick and easy way to transfer proteins that they need, right? So, environmental
resistance genes that heat shock proteins, all that kind of stuff, we can spread that
to without having to have offspring. So, it’s just like a really interesting way that DNA
is constantly being shared through um bacteria. Here we show that the deep learning can be used
to mine the proteomes. So proteoms is the genome all the proteins that are created within a uh
organism. Genome being the genes and proteomes being the proteins. So deep learning that’s
another key word. Deep learning means that we are trying to understand connections between data
that we previously could not understand unless we have these type of um it’s a form kind of like
of AI. It’s in that under that computer science umbrella of of ways that you can apply these um
these new techniques. We trained uh in insembles of deep learning models consisting of a peptide
sequence encoder coupled with neural networks. So again, neural networks is is a way for think
of how a neuron is. Yeah, there is tons. Yeah, this is an abstract that’s loaded with these
terms. Um, so neural networks again, think of how like a neuron happens where you have one thing
branching off to another thing, branching off to another thing for the prediction of antimicrobial
activity and used it to mine 10 million peptides. So, a peptide sequence encoder. So, that
means that they’re looking at the sequence of the peptide and they’re looking
at the antimicrobial activity. So, they’re trying to see how would these do against a
microbe? What are these peptides capable of doing? The models predicted 3 thou 37,000 sequences with
broadspectctrum antimicrobial activity. So there was some way that they disrupted the microbe be
it cell synthesis, transcription, some molecular uh adaptation or use and 11,000 of which were
not found in extent organisms. So extant being things that are living, extinct being things that
are not. We synthesized 69 of these peptides, which is very important. That’s a really good
good step that they’re actually doing some biology wet lab in order to make sure that these
things make sense. We synthesized 69 peptides and experimentally confirmed their activity against
bacterial pathogens. Most peptides killed bacteria by depolarizing their cytoplasmic membrane. So
they popped them. They popped them. They went in their little sack. Think of a the balloon
and they just popped the balloon contrary to known antimicrobial peptides which tend to target
the outer membrane. So there’s different parts of how these things can be um taken apart. And this
was a unique way that they evol they evolve in a different way than what we normally do. notably
lead compounds including mammoth thusen 2 from the woolly mammoth, elacin 2 from the straight
tus elephant um and a giant sloth. Oh dude, giant sloths are my favorite. Giant sloths are my
favorite thing ever showed anti-infective activity in mice with skin abscesses or thigh infections.
Let’s read that again. Notably, lead compounds showed anti-infective activity in mice with
skin absis, skin abscess or thigh infection. So, they were basically like a neosporin.
That’s cool. Molecular deextinction aided by deep learning may accelerate the discovery of
therapeutic molecules. It’s a great conclusion. Oh, giant sloths are real. They were like the size
of bears and they used to burrow into caves in North America and they were actually the um Joshua
tree. That’s actually how the Joshua tree was. They used to eat the fruits of the Joshua tree and
spread the seeds of the Joshua tree. Look up the Joshua tree. It is incredible. One of my favorites
all of biology. So the dis the extinction of the giant sloth meant that there is no longer a way
for the um Joshua tree to be spread as a plant. You’re you’re limited, right? Your seed drops and
right underneath you and you need an organism in order to eat that and spread it. So, all the
Joshua trees are in an extinction event right now. And we have every single Joshua tree. It’s
an ecological experiment that’s happening right now. The Joshua trees are going extinct. And
we are tracking their GPS locations to know uh just how a species goes extinct. That’s sad,
but it’s uh it’s true. It is very cool. Very cool. Very very cool. Oh, thank you BG GGG. Thank you. I appreciate
you. All right. Um, Reformed Zoom, you’re up. Thanks for requesting. How’s it going, man?
Welcome. It’s going pretty well, actually. Cool. Thanks for requesting. But um yeah, I do just
got one question for you, you know, as like a political scientist, right? So I mean what we’re
seeing with like the MAGA movement, you know, all this like unscientific stuff and I agree with
all you guys, right? Like one of the big questions that needs to be addressed is like where like all
these Indians are letting in cuz like everybody knows that the Indians are like scientifically
like genetically inferior and we need to stop all the all these MAGA Indians from praying
on women and we need to get rid of all these I don’t know where that was going, guys.
I don’t know where that was going. So, that was that was a little
cringe alert. The cringe cringe is so strong. The cringe.
The cringe is so strong. Oh, that’s so so cringe. The cringe, guys. Anyway, that was that got way weird.
That was weird. I didn’t um Sorry, guys. Sorry, guys. I I I try to I tried to put the follower only
for the requests and I just I didn’t want to uh sometimes I don’t know I like the fact that
everyone can join and they can request up immediately and I think that that’s good. I
don’t like the the fact that I kind of like give my platform to anyone that can like troll
instantly. I do like having like the follow um friction a little bit, but then
less people request. And the whole point of these like requests
and ask um segments are good. Um yeah. Yeah. Let’s cleanse our pallet. Michael,
yeah, I’m sorry. I seen you. You’re in there, bro. I just wanted to give other Hey, Michael.
Thanks, man. I I I saw you and I wanted to give someone else a chance. And man, I’m I’m laughing.
I’m laughing cuz you you’re such a nice guy. It’s like I’m sitting here laughing like what
what the hell’s a MAGA Indian? I know. I Yeah, it’s a good question. I don’t know where
he was going with that, but me neither, man. Um, but you don’t need to cringe or
you just click. Yeah. Oh, thank you. No, I mean this these conversations are interesting.
Um, definitely definitely interesting. Nice, man. Good. Um what do you talk about which
I think is like pertinent is just simple antibiotic resistance cuz I don’t think people
really understand that you know like uh when you have a bacterial infection why it’s so important
to take the full course you know and why we’re developing antibiotic resistance so much um you
know like uh um venkcomyosin resistant and caucus and things like that you know that are killing
people um Yeah. So you basically um let’s say um so antibiotic res there are as a bacteria there
are different drugs or proteins that can kind of go and target you for your resources. Right? you
are a living organism and you have proteins that people can other organisms can use and they want
to kind of take that and and as an attack and kind of take out another one. So there are yeasts for
example that will compete for bacteria and they will develop different types of of proteins
that will go and interfere with bacteria. So they will make um a a protein that they it’s
excreted and then it goes and disrupts the cell membrane that we were just reading about or
maybe it gets in and it it’s creates some type of uh transcription factor that it’s taking out or
or it could be like an anti-risper thing. So they, you know, yeast will evolve or viruses will evolve
like a um anti-risper mechanisms where they can take over the defense mechanism of bacteria and
make it kind of like the the defense gatling gun will like turn on them, you know, and uh
it’ll it’ll hurt them. But in general basically um mutations can exist inside of a population and
the genetic diversity within a population. So a populations evolve not individuals. So as you have
those mutations um you can create opportunities for other drugs. So maybe it’ll be like a heat
shock protein that’s not normally used or you know necessary but it’ll actually there’s just
enough kind of like steric hindrance or the the active site is just so that just with a couple
of mutations you can actually create something that would interfere with that thing that’s
being attacked with. You know so the the yeast is attacking the the bacteria. the bacteria has a
heat shock protein that isn’t necessary right now, but maybe mutations can occur and and make it
so that it actually binds to that anti- bacteria protein. And what happens is with antibiotics
is you want to create um and kill off the entire population because if you don’t then you allow
those genetic that genetic diversity to have a chance to evolve outside of that you know that
resistance. So, so that and that’s why where you have you know drugresistance bacteria coming from
because they’ve basically have you’re giving it chance to proliferate and to um evolve basically
outside of it. So that’s where um MRSA comes from and like all these other Yeah. And we’re we’re
basically running out of antibiotics. Go ahead. Actually, I think I think within the last month
or two months, maybe 3 months, they developed the first new antibiotic. I want to say in the
last 20 years. Oh, wow. Did you know that? Like, no. Because you know, there’s no money. I You can
Google it. I forgot what the antibiotic is. Um, but you know, there’s no pharmaceutical companies
have a real uh lack of desire to develop antibiotics. Did you find it? Yeah. AI designs
antibiotics for gorrhea and versa superbugs. Is this what you talking about? Yeah, I forgot I
forgot what the new what the new antibiotic is, but it’s um maybe this is Oh, this like seems
very preliminary. Preliminary prelim. No, this is some this is an FDA approved new Oh, nice.
Yeah. Yeah. Let me let me check that out. FDA. Oh, there you go. Uh, it’s called Jeepo to Dason. Jeep. Exactly.
Exactly. But it’s the first antibiotic approved in a in a long time just because um you know
that there’s a huge financial burden and so many of them fail. But um you know I mean the reason
why I bring this up is cuz you said your wife has strep throat and and well we’re just talking like
common things but you know when people obviously you need antibiotics but when people don’t take
a full course of antibiotics and they stop after 3 days 4 days because they feel better rather
than taking a 7 to 10 day course you select out resistant organisms and that’s how we develop
antibiotic resistance. You know, it’s a it’s a real problem. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think how how
how do you think like so as a microbiologist, I’m really antibiotics are good. You should take them,
do the full course. Absolutely. I think I this is kind of like a next generation kind of idea. like
I I’m curious your thoughts on like harboring and and promoting gut microbiome health and for like
a a t a targeted gene therapy approach as opposed to kind of like a general antibiotic. I mean it’s
impossible for us to know like what how far that that’s off or anything like that but um have
you heard about this? Are you excited about it? I mean the everything is you know it’s been
what would you say for the last five years seven years the gut the gut the gut you know
uh and but we also know that prebiotics and probiotics in certain populations are
not good for you pregnant women young children imuninompromised people because
you can transllocate you can transllocate them and actually become infected and get uh
bactermia from a probiotic that is that is benign in an imunocmpromised patient. So I think I think
manipulating the gut microbiome an example is um and I wrote a paper it’s on my substack but
it’s a real entity SIBO small intestinal bacterial overgrowth SIBO you guys may look it up when I
mean it’s a real disease not like some cockami uh that Jordan Peterson just said just like
Jordan Peterson announced he’s got some new from mold exposure, cleaning out his father’s
house, and he’s got to take some time off. And it was in the news yesterday, he’s got something
that’s not recognized by science, but of course, he’s got it, you know, and there’s and there’s
no treatment. But so SIBO is small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. So in the proximal
bowel, which is supposed to be sterile, probiotics can probiotics can contribute to it.
You get small in uh and you test it by testing for methane and hydrogen gas and the treatment
is people complain of people complain of bloating uh diarrhea. Those are the people who you just who
walk around and they’re complaining and you take an antibiotic called Zyaxin, also known as rife
for 2 weeks. Um, and it cures it, but it’s it’s related to a bacterial overgrowth in an area where
there is not supposed to be bacteria. You see it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. SIBO. Sibo. But I mean, it’s a
real it’s a real disease. But even some GI guys just forget about, you know, when your patient
comes in with bloating and they’re like, “Oh, yeah, just take ant acids.” But, um, you know,
but that’s that’s a perfect example of the gut microbiome being altered and you’re developing
bacteria that’s not supposed to be in a certain place. Interesting. Yeah, that is that. Oh,
that’s really interesting. I hadn’t heard about that before. Thanks for bringing it up. No, I
mean it’s if you start asking around like to friends and stuff, I’m sure you’ve had people who
who say to you, I mean my mother was like, “Oh, I’m so sick of feeling bloated.” Yeah. And and
I’m like, “Let’s just do a SIBO cuz you it’s it’s um you can actually buy it and test yourself at
home. you you drink some lactulose and then you get the report and um you know yeah your GI guy
or your family p uh prescribes antibiotics but I mean it’s cured and their life’s changed
but these are people have long-term symptoms you know so so I think you know getting back
to it I think if you alter the gut microbiome too much bad things do happen you know and
there’s a symbiosis with with you know I mean we all have yeast um and bacteria you know
that live in harmony symbiosis. Mhm. So what are you reading about SIBO now? Yeah. Yeah. I was
just looking at I I put your um your Substack and the the Mayo Clinic’s SIBO page in the show
notes. So I’ll uh I’ll read it read it later for sure and do a segment on it. So, dude, thank
you so much. I appreciate you. Will you Will you follow I I followed you. Will you follow
me and we can stay in touch? Yeah, for sure, man. I’ll give you my cell phone or whatever and
we can talk about We could geek out about stuff. Yeah, dude. Yeah, for sure, man. Let’s do it. You
can give me some ideas to write about, you know, because I write about everything. Okay. Yeah,
dude. I love your substack. I was just browsing through it. So, yeah. I mean, I just wrote this
paper about Pedo. Look at Pedo’s paradox. You’ll geek out about that. P I wrote a paper on
it but P O paradox okay it’s the concept of you reading it what it is yeah it’s the peros
paradox is the observation that at the species level the incidence of cancer does not appear to
correlate with the number of cells in an organism for example the incidence of cancer in humans is
much higher than the incidence of cancer in whales WA despite a whale having a thousand times
more cells than a human. If the probability of carinogenesis were constant across cells, one
would expect whales to have a higher incidence of cancer than humans. Pedo’s paradox is named
after the English statistician Pedo who first absorb observes it. Wow, that’s really cool. Yeah.
I mean, and and like but see the paradox is bats, for example, bats don’t get cancer. Bats don’t get
cancer and they’re smaller than what than we are. Yeah, that’s wild. I mean, I I wrote I just wrote
a paper on it on my Substack, but like check it out. You’ll like sit there and you’re just going
to be like, “This is this is crazy.” You know, elephants don’t get cancer either, dude. Do I mean
I heard like naked mole rats and stuff didn’t have cancer, but then they had they found that it was
a cancer, but it was really slow incidences of cancer, so they’re researching it still. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, um, you know, the main thing is bats. That’s why there’s so much studying going
on now with with bats because bats don’t get certain diseases. They transmit obviously, you
know, like whatever we can get, we’re not going to get into the whole COVID thing, but they don’t
get infected, but they transmit, you know, um, and bats don’t get cancer. So, yeah. So, check there
just a couple topics you can talk about on the show. SIBO Keto’s Paradox. Yeah, for sure, man.
Yeah, I’ll read through this and Yeah. So, follow me and then um I’ll give you my cell or whatever
and my email. We can stay in touch. Okay. Yeah, dude. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. I app I appreciate
talking. I appreciate you, too, man. Thanks for being here and thanks for like joining the
stream and like requesting up and everything. I It’s awesome. Thank you so much. Okay. All right,
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that that’s over. Okay. No M’s dreams. Welcome. How’s it going? Can you hear me? It’s
kind of hard to hear it with the echo. I can hear you. Okay. So, anyways, I came on your
show before and I’m just really impressed with how many followers you’ve had in months. Some
people work at it. Yeah, it’s been crazy. I’ve been doing this. This is my first week of doing
like streaming every day and it’s like two weeks of just doing the the live and I my account’s
only like a month old and it’s just been I’m so overwhelmed and with all the positivity and
everything. It’s just it’s incredible. I’m really Thank you guys. I appreciate you saying
that. Yeah. Commenting on the last guy who’s you you have such intelligent guests on here. I don’t
really feel qualified to speak other than the kids in verology getting her doctorate and we didn’t
even know what that was for four years. So yeah, it’s just really crazy the the knowledge that
you’re bringing to the surface of just everything from, you know, gene therapy. If anyone’s been
ganested, I have been cool for mental health. Yeah. cuz they were prescribing my allergy
benadryil. So yeah, I’ve been through it. And then back to his conversation, I just wanted to
add in where he thinks everybody’s getting stuff from antibiotics. And I realize he’s got like a
big study. So I’m not going to argue that at all. I’m just going to say not everybody’s hurting from
that. But I think people who are overloaded with prescription drugs suffer from that because I’ve
seen it happen to my sister over in, you know, five states away. Where she had MRSA and this
antibiotic resistance. Yeah. And I’m like, Kate, check your diet. Well, I can’t afford to eat
like you. And there’s always a comparison game with different populations. And also when my kid
went to college, you know, she went out of her Latina household and started eating things her gut
wasn’t used to and I’m a person with gird from, you know, vomiting over those meds for 7 hours
and it kind of ruptured my sternum. So I have a lot of experience through being the lab rat of
an injury that I’ve survived. Mhm. And and it’s so funny because the average person could look
at my page and see like a suggested video, but none of the men see the disability or the struggle
that people face after, you know, an injury, seven spine surgeries. Oh, dang. Etc., etc. So, I’m not
here to ring my bell. I’m just terribly interested in the cures and I lean more towards homeopathic
things than the prescription thing because the prescription thing is a catch in a fight. You
know, they want you there to prescribe you every 4 weeks or you know with the old insurance it was
every 90 days. So recently I’ve had to go back to my other medical doctor in the divorce and switch
back insuranceances and the care is so different and it’s a mind bender because there’s no rule
book. There’s no rule book to okay you have a retirement but you’re supposed to burn through it
to qualify for your medical care with Medicaid. And it’s a real conundrum of, you know, society.
And I listened to my neurosurgeon tell me it’s a socioeconomic problem before, you know,
things went personally sideways. And we’re not even going to tap on that. That would be a
totally different direction than okay. You know, your conversation. But I find you fascinating
and I find your supporters um very intelligent and I’m just really happy to tune in at night
and you know have the conversation with my mom. she’s an elderly person and you know just seeing
people that check your supplements and the most recent thing I’m going to tell you I came into
healthwise is we my ex changed out all our salt in like 2016 and nobody knows the harm maybe
that could do if you’re thyroid susceptible where you’ve had both sides of the thyroid disorder and
you’ve been in having your blood pull every four weeks. And I’m sitting there saying to my doctor,
how could a nutritionalist, how could anyone, even my thyroid doctor miss asking what my salts
were because they all assumed that you get it through processed foods and I’ve had a gas so I
use I flora, I use supplements and then there’s the yeast issue that circles back. Yeah, you
have to watch those um gut bacteria supplements cuz you said it in a different live where they
can be filled with yeast. So then I’m checking my I’m checking my supplements. Mhm. And now
we’re following up with a supplement vitamin nutritionalist again went to her clinic just for
better gut health. Yeah. Yeah. Like we’ve all been stressed out for a couple years and stress causes
gut problems. Yeah. And I’ve seen it in my child. He’s only 19 and I’ve seen it all the way from me
to my mom being tested for all this gird and you know she has a high nachial hernia. I don’t.
Mine’s been stress induced and diet of just probably not eating Yeah. at all during a 2-year
crap show. But yeah, I mean, there’s just so many factors that come into this topic that it’s just
not fair to say antibiotics are wrecking society and and people I agree with them. People don’t
take their full course. I catch my mom doing it. I catch my kid doing it. And I’m like, “Make sure
and finish that if they’re prescribed antibiotics because they always think they’re going to save
them for later.” Yeah, it’s crazy. And I’m just like, take the whole thing. I mean, everyone I
guess my big question is people talk about the perversed incentive in pharmaceuticals for that
profit motive kind of driving them to, you know, create these these drugs. And I guess I
my question to you would be like do you think that the supplement companies have that
same perverse incentive? Absolutely. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Absolutely. It’s like a double-edged
sword. You can overdo or underdo either side of it. Yeah. And you can’t go all like, “Oh, I’m
going to listen to my doctor and take every prescription they suggest.” when you’ve already
done the panel and then you get told, “Oh, well, I don’t like to use that panel.” Well, that’s when
you should run. And that’s when a patient should just get up and be like, “Thank you very much.”
and leave. And I’ve had to teach my son in just general doctors that he had the right to not jive
with that doctor. We will go see another primary doctor until you get one you’re comfortable
with. And I don’t think our society in America, I think they just go to a doctor and believe them
cuz they’re a doctor. And that’s not really the best cure for a patient because you have to narrow
it down to a 15minute interval. Yeah. Yeah. You really do have to advocate for yourself. And I
do I do think it’s tough. I mean, I I recently switched my PCP to a sports and family doctor,
which was really interesting. They they basically did all the um healthc care for the San Diego
Olympic team where like there’s a San Diego like place where all the Olympians train. And so they
go there and there’s like a bunch of just sports uh people and elderly people that are like fit,
you know, like it’s it’s just wild going in there and everyone’s kind of staying healthy and active
and that I just I’ve never felt a doctor’s office like this and you know, I’ll go in with like
a jiu-jitsu related injury or something like that and they’ll just, you know, they’re
they get it. They’re like, “Okay, you know, you got the tournament coming up. let’s get you
healthy and make sure you’re you’re you’re going. And it’s just really cool to be able to have um a
sports and an active lifestyle focused physician, you know, that that understands and and pushes
that. And I think it’s also it kind of I mean, imagine being a physician though on the other
side, a family medical doctor where you’re talking to people constantly and telling them that hey,
this is what you need to do. you’re morbidly obese and they don’t want to listen or they don’t want
to lose weight or they don’t listen to their um uh they they don’t listen to the physician and they
just go off whatever they find on Google and and I think that you can kind of see their frustration
and why they just kind of prescribe you what you want in order to be happy because it’s like
you either am I doing harm by prescribing you something that you know that you want that you you
say you need. It’s like, well, maybe they don’t need it, maybe they do, but at least they’re
getting something and they’re going to come back to me uh as a physician. Otherwise, they’re
may never come back. So, it’s like I you could almost have more harm by by people just completely
checking out of the medical system altogether and going to like a chiropractor, for example, which
is really common for like a lot of the antivaccine people thing. And it was um yeah, I can say I have
over 120 visits. Oh wow. And it wasn’t until I got to acupuncture that I found real healing for
neuropathy pain and maybe avoiding a surgery. And people don’t realize what acupuncture does
either because it retrains the nerves around the damage to make your muscles react around it
instead of try to go through it. And to me, that’s what neuropathy is. Now, there’s several
kinds of neuropathy. And then when they did injections on me and the doctor, my physsiatrist
is saying, “Um, Amy, what’s neuropathy feel like when he’s doing an injection through a scope?”
And I’m like, you don’t know. Yeah. And he says, it’s very different for every every person. And
I know it is because my mom’s neuropathy is just in her feet, the pins and needles from abuse.
And mine is from surgeries of multiples. So my neuropathy sets off where an injury is. Dang.
And it can go through your stomach. It can go really out of control through your body. And then
you’re like freaking out thinking you’re going to have another spine surgery and your nerve surgeon
is completely confused because by then it’s the anti-anxiety meds of hydroxyazine to to Wellbutrin
to Pristique. And if benadryil is your allergy, you’re just wondering why they’re telling you this
and you have to leave the office. Yeah. You have to make that advocate choice for yourself that
oh I listened to you and I did 30 days and then I did 60 and he kept upping it and upping it to
the point I couldn’t form a sentence and that’s not okay. That’s bad. You know it’s tough. And
then now imagine being a physician when you have this administration with RFK just pushing out
disinformation. just straight up disinformation, you know, like there’s going to be people that are
going to be like like the the disinformation is coming from the the actual government that that’s
supposed to tell you what is okay and not. So, you’re going to have actual HHS disinformation
printouts going to physicians and being like, “Is this safe for me to do with my kid? Is vaccines
safe?” And being that physician being like, “Yeah, it is, but you shouldn’t listen to this
guy for this reason. You should get vaccines.” And it’s just, you know, now it’s it’s just so
rampant. They they put seeded distrust into these uh organizations and this institution for so
long, but now they’ve gotten what they wanted, right? Where now they can put it out there and
not be held accountable for any of the deaths that they’re causing. And it is people that
are I know people get mad when I say this, but I’m sorry, but you know, the people that
push out disinformation like RFK are directly doing harm to people. They are uh the people that
spread in misinformation, they’re misinformed. I think that they have a chance to be, you know,
learned and be better and we shouldn’t castigate those people because they’re being taken advantage
of and they’re literally having their health hurt because they’re so they’re misinformed. But
the people like RFK that that create and push this information are irredeemable in my eyes
and because they are maliciously pushing out disinformation that is hurting people. So I think
that that that is the distinction and um we we have to to make um we have to you know make make
uh we have to fight at some point about it you know but um thank you so much for for joining.
I really appreciate it Brooks been waiting um and uh so thank you so much for requesting up and
one more thing. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Absolutely. Also, when you go to smaller communities, like I
went and got my mom in Wyoming, and um you go to smaller communities and my niece is a traveling
RNA and she refuses to take the COVID vaccine, but she’ll take the 3 days off every time she
tests positive. And she’s working with elderly people and I think it’s just very wrong. Me
and my mom have opinions on it. And I’m like, hey, if you’re going to do a traveling nurse gig,
you I mean, nurses come in from other countries. Nurses come in from everywhere. And I don’t think
it’s okay that you can work in the care business and spread disinformation about the MN. Like,
they don’t get it. They do not understand. And it’s just blind recklessness. And exactly. I’m
thinking, what if you harmed a patient because you refused to get the vaccine? Yeah. And they’re
elderly and they’re in a home and we know that that and we know that that she could spread it
asymptomatically. I mean, that’s the whole thing, right? We you can have SARS cove 2 positive uh
an infection and not have COVID 19 symptoms just like how you can have HIV but not have AIDS. So,
you know, she could have no symptoms and still be spreading it to someone that could that could
kill them legitimately. And that’s the danger. And that’s I don’t mind the 3 days off on a positive
test. That’s only when she’s testing with with symptoms though. And that’s the problem, you
know. It’s like So anyway, if I mean, if you wanted to recommend, she could she could contact
me uh on on or offline or, you know, if she wants We’re just not speaking. Okay, I understand
people and family because they live in little communities and I’m taking care of mom. Nobody
stepped up for that job. So, gotcha. You know, our household needs each other from the 19year-old
to the 59y old to the 81y old. Yeah. Look out for one another. You’re doing a good thing. Each other
and that’s the way family should be. Exactly. And I really don’t have time to argue with the family
that doesn’t want to snap in line on that. Well, send them to me. I can I can talk to them offline.
Offline, off stream, all that kind of stuff. Oh, no. No, no. Tik Tok. No, they we could just give
them my number and we can call or if she has any questions, it’s all good. They’re too bold to
take the information. Okay. Well, you know, easier to call family names. It’s it’s one one
step at a time. A little bit of knowledge. Well, thank you so much for um for jumping in.
I really appreciate you. So, you’re you’re welcome to join anytime. Have a great night.
Awesome. You, too. Thank you. All right, Brooke, I’m sorry. I saw you jump in and then jump
out. So, if you wanted to request right now, let me know. There’s one other person in
Q. Chungus fungus. I’m excited. Maybe he’s Profungus. M little microbiology guy. Excited.
Maybe. Let’s see. Okay. All right. Let’s see. Chungus Fungus, how’s it going? Welcome. Good. What do you want to talk about? Hear me? Yeah.
Yeah, I can hear you. I can’t see you. It’s a green screen. Oh, dude, that’s crazy. This
is the second time that’s happened today. Oh, man. I saw what you were wearing earlier,
though. I wanted to ask about that. Okay, cool. Why do you look so handsome? Um, yeah, dude. I
just want to present myself professionally here, you know? Try to I I care about being here and
I I think it’s like a a respectable thing to do, you know. Oh, whoa. Are you flirting with me? All right, guys. Anyway, so, okay. Thank you, guys. I appreciate it. I I I
thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Um, but that’s uh we’re we’re trying to do something here.
So, it’s uh it’s kind of disrespectful to jump into I appreciate it. And comments like I I thank
you the text I agree. Thank you. It’s very nice, but um jumping into the request to to you know, so
anyway, thank you. Thank you though. I appreciate it. Um yeah, exactly, Dr. T. Yeah. Um, okay.
All right, guys. Honestly, my throat is really hurting. Um, yeah, I do cry. It’s okay, though. I,
you know, I I appreciate it. I um It’s there’s uh it was Fiona, it’s funny, you know, it’s really
crazy is I I probably do. I probably do cuz my wife does. Um my all my life I was made fun of for
my looks. I was like for my freckles and stuff. I was like elementary school I was like mercilessly
bullied. I didn’t have like any friends. Um and uh people used to make fun of me all the time. So
it is crazy. I didn’t have like any girlfriends in high school or middle school. um wasn’t
until like I went to community college that I had a girlfriend and a real girlfriend. And so
it’s very weird. It’s very weird that this is um this is what it is. You know, it was only my
mom for the longest time. And I was like, “Mom, you’re supposed to say that. You’re not you’re
supposed to say that.” So, it’s pretty wild. So, it is funny. I appreciate the comments.
Chungus Fungus is back. I don’t know if we should let him. What do you guys think? It’s
up to chat. Chungus fungus. It’s up to chat, dude. We’re going to give chat. Do we give
Chungus fungus a second chance? Let’s see here. Do we give him a chance? Do we give
him a chance, guys? A second chance. Oh, no. It went away. Let’s see, guys.
Let’s see. Yes. You’re one and one, dude. Crying is no. Laughing is yes. Laughing is
we’re laughing it off. Crying is no. I do cry. Um, what do you guys think? What do you guys
think? We’re laughing it off or are we It’s not okay and we’re we’re crying about it.
What do you think? What do you guys think? What What do we do? We give him a minute.
It’s one It’s tied. It’s tied. It’s tied. All right. People are laughing about it.
Okay. If we’re laughing about it, then we can If we’re laughing it off, it’s okay. We’re
giving him another chance. How’s it going, dude? What’s up? What’s your question? Um, do you
have any ideas or something that we want to talk about? Well, I I I was writing a poem for
you in in the time that we spent apart. Okay. What’s it? What is the poem? Your hair is winter
fire. January embers. My heart burns there, too. Okay. All right. Thank you,
dude. I appreciate you. Thank you, dude. Okay. All right,
guys. All right. We need to need a screen. We need a screener. We need
to like have a application process. Okay. I do want to get a earlier
bedtime. I’ve been going to bed like at 2 o’clock. Science paper.
We’re all out, dude. We’re all out. Um, okay. You know what? We actually have I have
I have one more. I do have one more. Um, Dre, you’re right on. All right, we’re
going to do this and then we’re going to go I’m going to crash, too. I
know, right? I feel like crashing. Um, okay. Since we’re might lose
some of you, I just want to show Okay, real quick before we go into the next
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different. I’m trying to bring in more science so we can talk about articles top of the hour.
This is the third one. So I’m excited. Thank you, Dra, for reminding me that I had one all
planned out. This is one. So we got this. This is it. The second scene. New scene. Here
it is. We’re going over. Boom. All right. So, this is this. But then here we go. This is pretty
cool, actually. I actually really like this one. So, this is really interesting. So, this is a new
thing in Science Mag. Survey of five Australian avens find numerous discordant individuals,
including a genetic genetic male bird that laid an egg. Pretty interesting. pretty cool.
There’s I mean there’s a lot of um gamtoenesis it’s called where you can kind of like have clown
fish for example go from um the they’re male until the female the largest one dies and then the
largest male actually become the female of that se um that that an enemy family. So there is a lot of
reversal and changing that does happen in the the uh in nature. Very cool. So this is the article
if you want to follow along. It’s the show it’s in the show notes in today’s date. So when
it comes to telling males and females apart, many bird species reject subtlety altogether.
Roosters stand out thanks to their big bright comb and earsplitting cockadoodle dues. But
bachelor birds of paradise flaunt their vibrant plumage to attract more subdue females.
And the male peacock’s feather train is so ostentat ostentatious it famously threw even
Darwin for a loop. But that’s not the case for all species of birds. When males and females look
pretty much the same, scientists must try harder, often using DNA testing to separate the sexes.
According to a new study of wild Australian birds, these methods may be leading to misidentification
in cases where an individual’s gonads and outward appearance don’t align with the genetic
sex determined by its chromosomes. As scientists reported in biology letters, this
phenomenon known as sex reversal may be more common than anyone expected. So, it’s really
interesting just the idea that you can actually have a male and female looking very similar
happens mostly in environments where the um there’s enough resources that the um sexual
selection doesn’t necessarily have to happen. So, when in in a place that is extremely
competitive and very low resources, you have really really strong selectual selection.
So that’s why the males will do these dances and the plumage because they’re basically saying,
“I have enough resources in order to do this versus everyone else.” Um, so and basically the
female has all of the resources to make that egg, right? A sperm is a lot easier to make and make
a lot of than a huge very very costly very very um hard to make uh egg. So that that basically is
the evolutionary drive of what actually happens. This discovery is likely to quote raise some
eyebrows, says Blanch Kappell, a biologist at Duke University who wasn’t involved in the
new work. Although sex determination is often viewed as a straightforward process, she explains
the reality is much more complicated. In humans, individuals with XX chromosomes typically develop
as female, whereas those with XY are usually male. But Judith M, a zoologologist of the University
of British Columbia, notes it’s genes carried on those chromosomes, not the chromosomes
that are the main players. The SRY gene on the Y chromosome, for example, kickstarts male
development in mammals. Anyone missing this key gene will end up developing a female even if they
have XY chromosomes. We think of e sex chromosomes as being sex determining, says M, who also wasn’t
involved in the new research. That’s not true. And you also have a thing called X chromosome
silencing. So that’s really interesting. So if someone is XX, both of those chromosomes aren’t
going to be turned on. They’re actually one of them is going to be silenced and one of them is
going to be dominant. So there’s a lot of research going on into XXXY XXXY like and trying to figure
out how that type of uh chromosome silencing happens. What’s more, it can matter how these
genes are expressed on a cellby-c cell basis. In some species of fruit flies and zebra fish and
chickens, individual cells have their own sexual identity based on the genes they they happen to
contain or express rather than being influenced by the body’s overall hormone levels. When different
cells contain different sets of chromosomes, these this process can give rise to individuals
called ganandromorphs. ganandromorphs which exhibit both male and female characteristics.
Environmental factors such can also complicate sex determination. Turtle eggs that incubate
at cooler temperatures for example produce male hatchlings whereas turning up the heat
churns out females. Although rare in birds, this phenomenon has been seen in brush turkeys which
incubate their eggs in the enormous mountains. And this is actually having a huge problem with
climate change. So as we raise the temperature, turtles are turning more of one gender. It’s
not good. That is not a good thing. As a result, scientists have known for a long time that there
are other external factors that go into the development of sex characteristics in birds, says
study senior author Potvin, an animal ecologist at the University of Sunshine Coast. Even so, it was
unclear how often birds have the physical features of one sex, but the genetic makeup of the other.
To find out, Podfin’s team dissected and examined the bodies of nearly 500 birds belonging to five
common Australian species. The Australian magpie, laughing cucur, crested pigeon, rainbow laorake,
and scaly breasted laorke. All the animals had died after being admitted to wildlife hospitals
in Queensland because of unrelated illness or injury. In addition to identifying the bird’s
reproductive organs, researchers also tested their DNA to reveal their genetic sex. The team
was surprised to find sex reversal individuals in all five species at rates of three to 6%. Whoa,
that’s nuts. That is so high. That is crazy. So like one in one in 20 that is insane. Nearly
all these discordant birds were were genetically female but had male reproductive organs. However,
the researchers also found a few genetic males with ovaries, including a genetically male cucura
with a distended ovum, indicating it had recently laid an egg. Wow. The findings suggest sex
reversal is more common in wild birds than previously thought, which may have implicated
for the conservation of threatened species. It’s often important to know how many males
and females there are in a population because sex ratios influence the population’s ability to
reproduce, grow, and sustain itself. If you’re going off the genetic sex ratio, Podfan says you
may end up being surprised. Capel, for her part, isn’t sure the rate of sex reversal found in the
new study would be high enough to hamper a bird’s population’s ability to survive and reproduce.
Even so, the findings suggest researchers DNA based methods of identifying bird sex in the wild
are less accurate than once thought. In addition, knowing the wild bird’s baseline rates of sex
reversal could help scientists gauge when rates are unnaturally high, possibly because of the
endocrine disrupting chemicals in the environment. Now that we know discordance occurs, the next big
question will be what is driving this discordance in bur? Says Claire Howley, a environmental
biologist of Australians, Australia’s Commonwealth Scientific and and industrial
research organization who wasn’t involved Is it chemicals? Is it environmental stress? Or
some other factor that can develop uh that can alter the developmental trajectories? Podvin
hopes these findings will inspire scientists in other regions of the world to study sex
reversal in a wider range of bird species as well as investigate the brains of discordant
individuals. Potfin’s work primarily focuses on bird songs. So she wonders how sex reversal
might impact vocalization, especially in species where only the males can carry a tune. Quote,
“We know a lot about the physiology.” She says, “We don’t know how it impacts the individuals
and especially the populations as a whole.” All right, cool. Dude, that’s so cool. You guys
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it. This is kind of the post post show hangout. Chill. Post show. Chilling. Tamara just invited
me to co-host. I don’t know what this is. I’m I don’t Okay, let’s try it out. What’s going
on here? I don’t know what this is. Hi. Hey, Greg. What’s up? Oh my gosh. What’s happening? Hi.
What’s up? How’s it going? We’re good. We’re going We’re doing pretty good right now. I’ve never
done you debating. We’re ready. Oh, we just did um sex reversal in birds, which is kind of cool.
It happens at 5% of bird species. We had no idea that that happened at such a high rate. Isn’t that
cool? Yeah. What topic do you want to um do you debate like specific topics or is it more like you
know randomly generated type topics like what oh I mean I’m a scientist so anyone kind of can ask me
anything you know you want that’s where the doctor comes from see that’s where you lose me I don’t
know much about science she’s studying biology so Oh cool what’s your major me I’m um she’s
biochemistry oh dude that’s awesome undergrad Yeah, it’s kind of tough right now. I’m going into
my sophomore year, dude. Good for you. Biochem is awesome. Yeah, it is. It’s nice. I It’s kind
of hard right now. I hear What’s the hardest part about it? I hear sophomore year right now.
My labs My labs are kind of a pain, you know? That’s for sure. Um, other than that though, it’s
pretty chill. I mean, there’s not much to it. Wow, that’s really cool. What What do you want to do
with a biochem degree? Well, didn’t you want to be a physicist first? Oh my god. A physicist first?
I don’t know. And then we’re at a doctor’s office. Okay. All right. I don’t know what was going on
there. I’m uh I think she saved me. All right, guys. That was cool. Well, I’ve never
done a co-host thing. I don’t know, Nico. I don’t know, man. I don’t
know. Hopefully everything was all um Yeah, that was cool that they’re doing
biochem. I think that’s really cool. Um I know. I know. Um dude, so let’s see. Wow, you guys are right. 2500 followers this
time. Last week, guys, we were at like 350. So, so it’s been wild, dude. Jen, you’re
incredible. Thank you so much. 10,000 likes. Oh my gosh. I Yeah, like this time last
week, we were at like 300 followers, and it’s just been unbelievable. like the the stats on
the on my this page, it’s like plus 1,000%, 2,000, 8,000%. Like, it’s just I’m insane. I
thank you so much. Um, okay. Don’t get Yeah, don’t don’t hurt yourself. Oh, thank you,
Jay. Thank you. Um, I I’m live in San Diego. Um yeah, so I well I I mostly work with like yeast
and bacteria and then um but my PhD work and my research before was on algae. So I create,
you know, trying to make algae biofuels more uh renewable, sustainable, um allowing that kind
of stuff. And uh yeah, so it’s uh yeah, microbes are fun because I like to change genomes around.
I like to change genes, insert genes, learn about them, that kind of thing. So it’s a like a cool
way to uh you know, cool way to make new new things. I’m working going back to school and learn
Oh, cool. Oh, man. Should we have like a whole algae stream? Could we have an algae stream, guys?
Would you want that? Oh, Jen, you like that? Okay, cuz I changed things. I changed things around
like the, you know, again, guys, I’m posting in the the Discord like kind of like my show notes
what I’m thinking about. So, I’m changing the the stream up a little bit. Um, I wanted to try to
like be have fun a little bit more, create more um light-heartedness. I don’t want to just be
I don’t I’m feeling more comfortable here with this show and and everything and it’s been really
fun. So, I got like some some camera effects lined up. I got like, you know, that bad that bad uh
antivaxer that drops like that weird thing. I got I got a sound clip for that. We got that ready
to go. Thanks, Life is Dada. Yeah, man. I’m I was basically a science correspondent on Twitch
streams before and um so I wanted to kind of like this is my own stream for the first time kind of I
did I tried before but you know nobody would would join guys. I would be all by myself on Twitch for
hours. So So it’s actually wild to have so many people in here genuinely and talk to you guys.
It’s I’m I’m It’s wild. For for so for so long it was just a couple people and this is makes me feel
um appreciated and and just thank you so much. Yeah, Trump Trump wants to be
a dictator. That’s for sure. Yeah, I don’t think that Tik Tok’s
going to go anywhere, you know. Um I don’t think I don’t think it’s going to um yeah I mean I you know most of the time the
guests it’s like non-stop so it’s actually me kind of like putting not a stop to it but kind
of like pushing because because a lot of times people will come in and the amount of people that
are like debating COVID and evolution. Honestly, I’ll be real. I wasn’t expecting the amount
of people uh still debating evolution. I mean, I obviously understand that Christian
apologetics stuff is out there, but it’s pretty wild for me to to see
all them like out so strongly. And um so I I’ve always thought that that was kind
of weird. What’s the most important issue we should be concerned about within the human body?
Oh man, as a microbiologist, I’m pretty I love the gut microbiome. How it’s connected to the the
the brain that gut brain connection is so big. The community guidelines are becoming weird. Oh, I don’t know. I don’t know what the changes
are. I’ll have to check that out. Let’s see. Let’s see. Let me ask ChatVT. What are the Tik
Tok community guidelines changing to coming up? New are you left, right, or center? Just curious.
I really try not to be ideological if you really want. I don’t want you to follow my train of
thought. I want you to I don’t want you to to follow my and copy my positions. I don’t think
that I’m right just because I’m I’m either of those. I hate labels. I want you to um not
what I think, but how I think about stuff, you know? I think that’s more important than like
where are you? You know, I think that’s kind of a huge problem with politics right now is everyone’s
so labely. Got to be a label. And once you have that label, then you carry that ideological
banner. And I hate that. I hate carrying banners. I hate having to uh you know say I’m this so
therefore I’m that you know I’m I I like to just uh but but I mean I I I can tell you like who I
voted for like I I was voted uh against George W. Bush in 2004. I made the the cut off by like
a week which was incredible. Volunteered for Obama’s campaign in ’08. Um, I door knocked
in Nevada. I drove 10 hours up to Nevada to door knock in rural Nevada, guys. I had people
threatened my life a couple times. Um, and uh, that was pretty wild. But I did that for like 12
hours over two days. Door knocked over like 200 200 people. And um, yeah, it was a three it was a
crazy district. she was three. So, it was a combat house district and the Senate was up for for in
in and uh in Nevada and obviously Harris. So, um it was wild. Like some of them were so remote
and I would just be driving like 15 minutes for this person and then I would come and they would
just they would they’d be like, “Oh my gosh, I can’t believe the Democratic Party is like out
here and visiting me.” Um like they’re they were so like blown away, you know, cuz they felt like
they were the only Democrats living in Nevada, you know, and uh it was really cool like connecting
with those people. They were really nice and I drove like 20 minutes out of my way just to see
one person, you know, and they were there. So, it was pretty wild. Some people were not um not
so happy about it. Wanted me to get the hell out of there. One guy came up to me and was like
cuz cuz I had um I had I didn’t I didn’t wear a Harris shirt, you know, and um just because of
that. I didn’t know. I didn’t want to attract any bad attention, but I did have my American flag
bandana on my head. Um, and then he was like, “Oh, you better have been from the Harris campaign
or I would have shot you.” And I was like, “Whoa, well, I’m glad you didn’t do that.” So, yeah,
in rural California, too. It’s true. Yeah. My my politics are mutual respect
in conversations and human rights. I don’t need a label for that.
Yeah, exactly. I agree with that. Oh, no. It’s Dude, San Diego’s gotten a
lot better. It’s not so Republican anymore, I don’t think. Um, okay. Here are the the
community guidelines that are changing. Let’s see. Simpler layout, new rules at a glance. Live
got stricter. Uh-oh. So, you’re responsible now for anything that happens on your live, including
thirdparty tools, which is TTS, auto translate, new clarity on commercial content during live.
That makes sense to me in the fact of like I mean, I didn’t want to do TTS for that reason. I I
wanted to do that’s the reason why I did the super chats the way I did it because it’s just
like, oh, dude, Jody, Craig, thank you so much. You guys are killing it. Um, Jen, oh my gosh,
you’re amazing. Wow, I can’t believe you. Um, yeah, I I wanted to do a um I wanted to do super
chat for that reason. I didn’t want to do TTS cuz that it seems weird. Um, commercial disclosure
shot bias. I don’t I would never do that, I don’t think. Personalization called out. Search results
and comments are not explicitly personalized. AI synthetic media wording tightened. Ban reframed
to AI content. That’s misleading. That’s good. Use Tik Tok’s AI label for fully or synthetically AI
generated edits. Oh, that’s crazy. There’s so many um there’s so many like services now that
allow you to do AI edits that that’s crazy that they would um do that. The FYF for you
eligibility info moved. The the long FYF in ineligible list is no longer in one place. Quick
todo for creators. Turn on commercial disclosure whenever applicable. Audit live setup. So
mute monitor TTS or translation bots. I don’t have those. Label AI when content
is fully or significantly AI generated. reskim misinformation bullying sections. That’s
good. Honestly, it’s actually really kind of I don’t agree with a lot of the hate raids and um
bullying and doxing that happens on on TikTok, guys. I I do think that’s bad. So, I think
that there is uh it’s not good, man. You know, you got to have place at least here. You
got to have people willing to be honest with themselves and honest with their opinions
without fear of like losing their job or um you know it’s it’s not okay. They’re cuz
they’re going to have those views anyway, right? This is what we’ve learned with the antivax
people in the during co like you can push those people away and but you castigate someone and who
are they going to go to? they’re going to go to the people that they’re castigated with. They’re
not going to, you know, think, “Oh, man. Well, now I’m going to I’m going to change my view,
you know, they don’t they don’t do that.” Um some um I do I mean I do think like if someone is
explicitly pushing you know it it the worst of society and stuff and explicitly making
hateful content then um you know obviously if they’re recording a hate crime then then
it’s obviously different, but you know, someone that’s legitimately trying to talk through
or nuance their position through, I think that you kind of have to give people a uh, you know, kind
of give them a chance to to explore that cuz if you don’t if you don’t engage in those ideas,
people are going to they’re going to go talk to someone else about it. But I don’t think that
everyone should have to have those conversations, too. That’s the other thing, right? I don’t think
that every queer person has to sit there and justify their existence for every Republican. You
know what I mean? That’s like ridiculous. Um so, uh but I think that obviously like in a democracy
debate is important. I really do think that is that is really important. I know. See see Jen,
I’m telling you, he was totally different, wasn’t he? I I do walk look at you can see who
is in your chat and I do he was he’s here for hours so he’s like watching he is here you know
so it’s uh kill him with kindness that’s what my mom always used to say to my bullies and stuff so
um it has a hidden reporting system interesting um I know yeah Nico that’s a really
good point I mean it is I I think scientists are uniquely exposed unless you
are going completely anonymous. Um, you know, because we have to have our publications out
there. You know, you have to have our names and uh so I think that we are uniquely exposed
unfortunately. Um, and I’ve gone over it, but yeah, I was the victim of the QAnon conspiracy
hate raid and my the lab that I was in was in the uh, you know, in the QAnon conspiracy and
we got we’re the victim of that stuff. So, um, it’s crazy. It’s crazy. But I mean, they
legitimately think that you you are what’s wrong in the worlds and they’re coming after
you trying to shut you down. Dude, flat earth is one of those I don’t even it’s it’s that is
legitimately one of those like questions you if you know it really comes down to what you believe
and why you believe it because that is that is one that’s a foundational belief. Like if you if you
think the sky is fake, there is so much that you don’t believe that you really are down. Um Yeah,
exactly, Jen. You’re down some really gnarly rabbit holes. Some gnarly ones. Well, that Yeah,
because of um what’s his face? The the 10th planet guy. Um God, I’m blanking on his name. Eddie
Bravo. Yeah, exactly, Nico. Yeah. Yeah, dude. It’s I mean it’s ironic, dude. His he named his
thing 10th planet, but he thinks that the skies are fake, you know? It’s like what what is that?
And obviously like I’m not going to join that gym, you know, as a scientist. Like I want to be proud
of putting like my my gym stuff on and and wearing uh Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Um the I want to be proud
of the the the logo and stuff, man. you know, and it is important for me to have people that
I can that I can look up to that’s also like my kids coaches. You know, these are going to be
influential people in their lives going forward. And I think that it’s really important. Dude,
you guys, Jen, you’re you’re incredible. I can’t You’re so Yeah, dude. You’re Thank you guys
so much. Thank you guys. How do you get from Russia? Dude, did you guys see someone actually
created an AI deep fake video of explorers at the edge of the earth and they are like they they’re
there and they have like a fake edge of the earth and they’re actually like spelunking down the the
side of the wall. They’re like this is where it is. This is there’s like a river that’s just going
off into space. It is like oh my this is gnarly. This is so dangerous. Um, dude, oh my gosh, look
at that. On my page, it says 0.1M. I’ve never seen that before. That’s incredible, dude. That is
wild. Thank you guys so much. It is, dude. It is getting insane, man. Thank you guys so much for
the likes and everything. You guys are incredible. 101,000. Thank you guys. Wild. That’s so cool. A AI is dangerous. It’s like and it’s awesome,
but then it’s also really dangerous. Do you have a favorite algae? Oh man. I mean, it would
have to be Clammy Donus Ran Hard Eyee. I mean, that would have to be that’s the one
that I’ve worked with the most. You know, that’s the that Clammy is the one that where
everything came from, guys. That’s where the electron transport chain pump came from, the
mitochondria, um the um you know that that whole thing. I mean, you’ve seen it in all
your your textbooks, the you know, the gear. Do we allow guests up? Um I’m just going to I’m
I’m wrapping up and so I’m just tired. I’m just kind of like this like the after stream Q&A. Cyano
algae. Yeah, cyanobacteria are cool. They’re like proarotic. I mean basically chloroplast are endo
symbiotic um cyanobacteria. I do not wear a mask. I I mean you should you should for your health
and for health others. Honestly, you should. I would. I would now cuz I like have a sore throat
and I think I might have strep so I would if I was around. But, you know, honestly, man, like
I’ve I do jiu-jitsu and like my my morning starts with like some dude’s sweat getting right all all
on me. You know, the sweat will drop in your eye, in your mouth. Like it’s uh it’s crazy. So, um I
feel like wearing a mask after doing that is kind of like frivolous, but uh it is very weird. Some
dude’s feet is in your face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um I mean it’s it genuinely guys SARS cove 2 is
still in a pandemic and long COVID is real. So long co uh if you develop co 19 symptoms you know
about 20% of people develop long covid and that’s brain fog that’s neurodeeneration you should you
know you should we we should as a c as a culture we should have been masking way more hardcore we
never locked down we have to be serious about that compared to other countries we never took each
other’s public health seriously we didn’t mass vaccine we you know we didn’t do anything so
I feel like um you got to we have the we have to Yeah. Yeah. You don’t Yeah. I know. I know,
man. It’s like I think that like honestly the you know like ethically, morally should probably
vegetarian too, you know, like but I’m not. Um so it’s just I’m not a perfect person, you know
what I mean? I don’t I It’s Yeah. Uh I got picked on for your freckles. How do you get rid
of yours? I don’t see that. I have Dude, they’re I have everywhere. I have freckles everywhere
on my body, man. They’re like everywhere. Was one vaccine and a booster enough?
No. No. You should be getting a vaccine uh COVID vaccine every every year. So, get your
flu, get your CO at the same time. Get it done. Dang. Yeah, it’s um Yeah. Oh my gosh, Jody, your little one lost 30% of the lung volume.
Oh, I’m so hard. So sorry to hear that. That’s awful. Oh my gosh. Energy works to you.
I’m so sorry. Fourth time. That’s awful. Yeah. No, you’re right. I mean, Melting,
you’re right. I mean, it’s just You’re right, man. I mean, my um So, it’s just What are
you gonna do, man? Um I don’t I minimize like myself. We don’t we do food delivery.
We don’t go to market places. Um I just go to jiu-jitsu and come back. And I’m my it’s
yeah I mean you’re not wrong. You’re not wrong Melting. You’re not wrong at all. I agree with
you. Um is the flu vaccine necessary or do you prioritize COVID vaccine? Do them both. Yeah.
There’s no reason to stop. Just do them both. Yeah, you should. Yeah, you
should just get them both. Oh, dude. Reform this guy. You got to block this guy. How do I ban this guy? I’ll have to figure that out.
I don’t know how to do it. I’m trying I’m trying to find how to do it. I can’t add I can’t add them. Okay, cool. Thanks for dude.
Yay. Reform the the guy that did the weird cringe say gone. Good
job. Good job, everyone. All right. Thank you. Thank you for All right. Yeah, thanks for queuing up again, dude. That was
nice of you. So I could I could get your name. Everyone, thank you guys so
much. Thank you guys. Thank you guys so much for everything.
Was a really good stream. I am 38. Yeah, I’m 38. Thank you. Oh, thank you, Gloomy.
I appreciate you. One more time, guys. Just one more time. How do you Do you guys like these the
top of the ad that the the top of the ad read? I hope I I don’t want it to be obnoxious. I really
don’t, but I I don’t want it to uh be too much, but but I looked at the stats and it’s like people
are normally here for like five five minutes. So, I was like So, it’s like I I was like, “Oh, no.
Oh, I need to like do some some like capturing in order to get people. Um, so, okay. Thanks, Jen. If
it’s ever gets annoying, let me know. For real. I I don’t want to, but I wanted to do it like every
at the top of every hour. So, just, you know, just every hour. Um, okay. Sweet. Thanks, guys.
Thanks, guys. Okay. Well, this is the last one. Sorry, Garrett. We’re going away. Thank you guys.
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notes, all the science articles we went over, all the ideas. I’m usually when we’re talking
about something, I’m bringing it up, too. So, I’m bringing up uh you know, whatever we’re
talking about. U Michael had his Substack, so I put the Substack link in there. So, that’s
how you can really uh follow along. All the primary sources and we’re discussing science on
there. And all of the archives of all these lives, I upload them immediately to YouTube. I don’t
know. It’s actually been wild. I have no idea, but the YouTube archives are getting like 50 50
views. I have no idea what is happening, but yeah, they actually get like 50 30 to 50 views right
now. I’m like blown away. I have no idea why. It’s very cool. Um, and then also my publications
are all on there. So, you can no payw wall read my science. Thank you, dude. Thank you guys
for liking so much. That’s so cool. Thank you. Thank you for pushing it. All right, guys. That’s
it. Same time. Same bat time. Same bat channel. What? What’s the science thing that we could do?
Same microbe time. Same micro channel. Does that work? I think that’s works. It was a really fun
stream. I’m excited to uh I’m excited to do it again tomorrow. Uh 900 p.m. PST. kids go to bed
at 8. So, I quickly get everything all situated, get everything um walk the dogs, and then come and
do this with you guys. It’s been fun. It’s always fun. This is such a cool addition to my life, and
I am so happy to be here with you guys. Uh yeah, sure. In the future, I don’t see why not. Um but
anyway, guys, this is it for real. Thank you guys so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Vaccines
are safe and effective. Get your boosters. Get your flax vaccine vaccines. Get your COVID shots.
Get your flu shots. Get all the TEDAP. You can get all the the vaccines you can get before they
get made illegal or something ridiculous. So, 110,000. It’s insane. I can’t believe it.
It’s so cool. Jody just doing so much work. Incredible, Jen. Unbelievable. I I love
it. Thank you guys. Genuinely, genuinely, thank you so much. Have a good night. Be
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