“We still see skinny as equating to being healthy. And I think that needs to change, because I see everyone getting so thin… last year I was at Paris Fashion Week, and I could visibly see people’s clavicles and ribcages on the runway, and hip bones,” she tells Refinery29 Australia. “People talk about normalising or glorifying obesity when we talk about plus size modelling, but I also think we should not be glorifying starvation either, there are two extremes… being healthy, that is the ultimate goal.” Choosing her words carefully, the curve model links the current trend in beauty standards to the politics of the moment. “I think that the traditional beauty standard is kind of a sham… especially what’s coming out now with the Epstein files, the traditional beauty standard is rooted in something very, very deeply disturbing. It’s skinny, white, and kind of infantile. And we are not children anymore, we’re women, and women come in all shapes and sizes, all colours,” the model says.