Wait… should you really be supplementing with vitamin D? 👀
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Low vitamin D might not mean you’re deficient… it might mean your body can’t use it. 😮 From stress to magnesium to liver health (and yes, even blue light!), we’re unpacking why vitamin D is way more complex than we’ve been told.
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[Music] [Applause] [Music] hello everyone and welcome back to the podcast it’s Carrie and Jen here and admittedly we’re kind of diving into maybe more of a controversial topic today but we’re excited about it so have an open mind very open mind you’re right we’re kind we’re definitely going to go against the grain today yeah but that’s it’s good it’s not bad um we’re you might be scared about what might be coming next but nothing scary it’s just vitamin D vitamin that’s it um vitamin D supplementation is something that is is is very well known like oh if you have low vitamin D you might need to supplement or you might need to really look at that as like something that could be um making your symptoms worse or making you you know it might be like a first step in feeling better um but we wanted to just chat about that and why you might want to reconsider it as a first step and really look more at why your vitamin D is low if it is um and there’s a lot of different things that go into it it’s not just as simple as okay my vitamin D is low let me just take a vitamin D even if it’s a good quality one that that does matter but even if it’s a good quality one you still might not need to have it as your first step so we’re going to kind of unpack this and and go through some um just some information so you understand vitamin D a little bit more and how what it role is in the body and and the different things that are needed for it to work properly right you want to kick us off yeah let’s jump right in so you know um one of the things that has really caught my attention was with when I was with standard process you know as I’ve mentioned I’ve worked with amazing doctors and practitioners and um the the really the the guys that really um knew what they were doing said they rarely supplemented with vitamin D which always caught my attention and I didn’t really dive deeper into it until recently uh with the root cause and um if some of you you know um know um Mr robbins um he talks about like how can Americans have the highest levels of cholesterol you know remember vitamin D is made from cholesterol yet have the lowest levels of vitamin D why is that that doesn’t make sense right so basically what he says is that the answer lies in the body’s conversion process and he says when you know when cholesterol is activated by the sunlight it turns into vitamin D but this this process requires key steps so first right uh the first process is under the skin right we’re exposed to UV light but then that needs to be taken and converted in the liver uh it’s also called hydroxilated so it needs a hydroxy group and then that happens again in the kidney right so kidney and li liver function needs to be working well but you also need magnesium to do those processes and without magnesium these steps can’t happen so um He says ideally you know blood vitamin D blood testing is a perfect reflection of magnesium levels and it shows how deficient in America we are in magnesium because vitamin D’s job is really you know uh dependent on its conversion in the liver and the kidney with the help of magnesium so you know a lot of times a lot of and and you know I I see we see a lot of people especially you know the imperson people I feel like you know they say to me look I’m not sleeping I need magnesium yes most everybody I think we’ve been especially women have said been taught anyway that they need calcium right for bone health and if I had to pick calcium over magnesium I’d probably pick magnesium uh but you can’t just jump to magnesium right we’ve talked about this before too you need sodium you need potassium so uh we won’t get into all that you can listen to our other podcast we’ve talked about that before um but I want to talk about vitamin D’s job so vitamin D’s basic job is excuse me is to tell the intestines to absorb more calcium right and bring it to the blood that’s vitamin D’s main uh function right so if the the there is low blood calcium that your body will increase absorption of um you know um or hopefully with the help of vitamin D we’re going to talk about the other roles though that some other hormones parathyroid hormones specifically melatonin um that really influence that but anyway um what we have to understand is that every time you’re taking a supplement you’re influencing probably 20 other vitamins and minerals um and so what we need to look at is okay if vitamin D is low what are we missing what are we not doing instead of just supplementing supplementing with vitamin D it’s like when we’re looking at a hair analysis and say I’m just throwing this out there chromium’s low right you don’t just give them chromium right it’s influenced by other minerals so we have to look at what okay if it’s low we have to look at what minerals actually bring chromium up and vice versa and they’re all interdependent so we just I guess the point of all that is to say like you don’t just give vitamin D when vitamin D is low um and one is they’re measuring the storage form of vitamin D so most doctors um and most practitioners including us look at 25 colalciferol uh which is the storage form and they’re not looking at 125 um cola which is the active form what’s circulating uh and using and probably acting on uh the vitamin D receptors so we can talk about obviously uh uh ways that we’re limiting you know vitamin D production uh we’re all scared of the sun carrie do you want to talk a little bit about um just Sure yeah yeah you know and I just want to point out all the things that she just said was was not to confuse you but it’s not straightforward so if you feel like I don’t really understand how all that went together that that’s what we’re trying to say it is more more than just this is low supplement with this um and so it there are so many things that are dependent on each other and one of one of the things that you didn’t mention that I feel like is super important is that vitamin D supplementation directly impacts vitamin A which then throws off copper and iron which a lot of people have issues with um and also it can deplete um magnesium high doses of vitamin D deplete what you actually need um and potassium and potassium um which is big we see depleted potassium all the time it’s not just from that i mean it’s stress in itself can cause depleted potassium um but you know it’s it’s more it’s more complicated than that and so um yeah let’s talk about um why you might be burning through it more quickly because honestly as a as root cause practitioner that’s what we’re looking at obviously we’re we want to we want to look at an HCMA and blood work to see like okay if your vitamin D is low well then we’re going to look at all these other factors to see why is it actually low and where do we need to start to kind of give your body what it needs so that’s um the other minerals don’t get off first of all but also how can we decrease some of the stressors that are actually causing you to burn through it quicker so hopefully that makes sense from like a big picture perspective um but chronic stress is is definitely a key to why a lot of people’s mag sorry vitamin D is low um because stress increases cortisol which depletes magnesium um and without magnesium your body can’t convert vitamin D um efficiently so and it causes obviously to just burn through that quicker um the second is inflammation or chronic infections we actually talked a little bit we didn’t actually mention I don’t think vitamin D in the past episode but that’s definitely something that can happen when you have this um chronic drain on your immune system and then you have immune dysfunction or you know inflammation being caused from a variety of reasons that definitely um causes your body to consume more vitamin D because it’s trying to activate that calcium to do what it’s you know it’s trying it’s trying to um help your immune system work better but over time it just it gets depleted because that’s a ongoing thing it’s a chronic thing um next would be um the toxicity what is your toxin burden um that goes right along with liver congestion as Jen mentioned um a lot of this process of like making sure vitamin D works properly is in your liver and dude everybody’s liver is congested right i mean like for in so it’s just every especially women we’re just bombarded you know i mean we got to we got to detox our hormones we got to we’re just we have a lot more things that um impact our liver I feel like so that’s that’s a common thing that we see um so where do we where do we go from here how do we start peeling back or you know putting the pieces together i just want to say one thing there we’re not throwing out the baby with a bath water here you know aging adults they don’t convert vitamin D as well um and so and they often don’t get as much time outside now in an acute situation they’re in the hospital what would vitamin D in that moment boost their immune system and should you do it probably it’s better than most medications in some aspects um obesity so if you’re overweight um you know the storage form so there are exceptions we don’t want to you know say okay no one should supplement with vitamin D that’s not what we’re saying we’re just saying everybody’s jumping in with both feet into vitamin D and they should be taking this amount where we should back up a couple steps before that and maybe look at the broader picture um why is the vitamin D low yeah or maybe you know like we’ve talked about before maybe somebody does really need vitamin D why sure right i mean I mean you just everybody’s different everybody’s unique um but that this is the general consensus mostly is just take vitamin D every everybody needs to be taking vitamin D we’re saying pump the brakes a little bit let’s look at other things right it’s not a harmless vitamin it’s it’s a it’s a hormone it’s actually a hormone right exactly um and so we want you to just kind of respect the vitamin D in the sense that um you know it’s it’s fat soluble and so um can you get too much absolutely um you know and it may suppress s symptoms without resolving the root cause which is always what we’re looking at is what is the root cause and a lot of times you know as Carrie mentioned it will deplete vitamin A well almost none of us get enough vitamin A vitamin A is integral for healing the gut how many of us have gut problems 99.9 probably and when I say problems you know what I mean you know could do better heal more um with the gut um potassium ium how many of us are probably low in potassium a lot of us so we just don’t want to be giving one thing to correct one problem and then create other issues so that’s just what we’re kind of you know we we we want to talk about this in the sense that uh it’s not always a good idea to to if your vitamin D is low to just jump in and take uh vitamin D first of all um especially in the winter if you you know we have things like melatonin carrie do you want to talk a little bit about me m melatonin should pick up a lot of the function of vitamin D um in the winter if we live the way we’re supposed to live in the winter that’s the key melatonin is obviously produced by darkness right and so we’re living in the winter just like we do in the summer with the light on you know for 12 to 15 hours which is and in the winter time you know because we’re not getting vitamin D we need more melatonin so we should be in more darkness and cold sorry Carrie I’m taking your You you took all my points no really um that’s why what she’s saying is that’s why circadian rhythm stuff that we talk about is so much more important um I won’t say it’s more important but it it’s just as important if not more in the winter because there is more darkness right and so we’re inside more and we’re under blue light more and so um that that throws off what the benefits should be of winter which is more melatonin so we don’t get more melatonin if we don’t block the blue light and still get that morning sun and try to be outside as much as we can um that’s it’s even more important during the winter because of that reason um and if we lean into that and don’t just think “Oh gosh this affects this is my seasonal um effective what is it called seasonal what am I trying i’m drawing seasonal effective disorder.” Gosh yeah okay i think I had it right i was like I don’t know why I’m drawing a blank that’s why that’s a thing right i mean if we were to lean into the winter and really support these things I don’t think we would see as much um of that it’s definitely a thing I think a lot more in the north too because it’s just cold you can’t get outside so yeah this is definitely something that affects a lot of our life i mean obviously we’re just talking a lot about like immune system here i think that’s what we think about when we think about vitamin D but it does affect a lot more than that no there’s vitamin D receptors on almost every cell i mean it affects almost every organ and I just and one other thing is you know all of a sudden we you know these for these you know last you know millions of years or however long we’ve been around we haven’t been supplementing with vitamin D um and of course you know we have to think fundamentally like okay God gave us a a a really good system that works and do we really need to supplement with vitamin D now can we enhance things with supplementation yes absolutely i get that we talked about that but fundamentally we should be able to work with what we have um and so that’s just kind of what we lean into now of course there’s always you know chronic disease there’s illness and there’s exceptions i just I keep want to say that because I I don’t want people to think that we’re totally against vitamin D um but we just want to you know uh just make you aware um it’s it’s much more than vitamin D sure it’s not as simple as just right sorry and if you’re on vitamin D we’re not telling you to get off necessarily we’re just saying maybe just think about what else might be going on maybe just think maybe maybe you ask you know if you’re working with somebody or you look into it yourself just to see like what are the other things that are causing this to consistently be low we’re not necessarily supplementing saying you know supplementing for a season we’re saying long-term supplementation that’s different um than supplementing you know for a couple of months or something like that i mean sometimes people are on vitamin D for years and years with no break so if that’s you you really want to look into what is causing my body to consistently be low in vitamin D yeah so again uh if you have questions about this please please reach out to us hello at uh cornerstonehealing.com um you can take our quiz uh we’d love to chat with you more on an inquiry call if you have questions uh um about this subject or something else that might be going on so please reach out to us um until the next time thanks for listening
