The ailment known as long COVID continues to puzzle doctors, who have not yet been able to identify what causes the prolonged symptoms in patients. Dr. Deborah Birx, the former White House coronavirus response coordinator who is now a senior fellow at the Bush Institute, says understanding what the CDC got wrong about COVID-19 is critical for planning the response to future health crises.
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NONSENSE. BUT THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MIX SCIENCE AND POLITICS. OF COURSE, THAT’S FORMER WHITE HOUSE CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE COORDINATOR DOCTOR DEBORAH BIRX. SO A LOT OF HER, ALL THAT NONSENSE ABOUT HER SCARS WHEN THIS COUNTRY WAS CRISIS SHOWS YOU WHAT WE REALLY TRY
TO FOCUS ON SOMETIMES RIGHT. HER NAME WAS IN THE NEWS ALMOST AS MUCH FAUCI. SO NOW THAT SHE’S OUT, WHAT DOES SHE KNOW AND WHAT CAN SHE DISCUSSED ABOUT LONG COVID THESE COMPARISONS BEING MADE TO HIV. IF YOU LOOK UP BERKS
HIS BACKGROUND, SHE’S DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH IN THE AREA OF HIV AIDS AND WHAT THAT MEANS. LET’S BRING IRAN NOW SENIOR FELLOW WITH THE BUSH JUMP PROFESSOR AT TEXAS TECH, TEXAS TECH HEALTH SCIENCES CENTER. THAT’S JUST MY TONGUE. IT’S
NOT MY LONG COVID. DOC, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. >> GOOD TO SEE IT, CHRIS. >> FIRST UP LONG COVID, OK, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. BUT THE IDEA THAT THE CDC WAS IN GETTING THINGS RIGHT ON YOUR WATCH AND YOU’RE
WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THEY’RE DOING NOW MEANS WHAT? GIVE SOME CONTEXT TO THAT HEADLINE. >> WELL, ITS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WENT WRONG IN FIRST ENTIRE YEAR. AND I THINK THE NUMBER ONE THING WAS THEY WERE WILLING TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT COVID
WAS A VERY DIFFERENT VIRUS THAN FLU. AND YOU CAN’T USE 19 CENTURY SYMPTOMATIC TRACKING A VIRUS IS WHEN WE HAVE 21ST CENTURY TECHNOLOGY. AND SO WE WERE LATE TO TESTING WHRE WE WERE LATE TO REALLY TALKING ABOUT ASYMPTOMATIC SPREAD. AND
WE WERE VERY LATE IN RECOGNIZING THE AEROSOL NATURE OF THIS VIRUS WAS STILL LIVES WITH US TODAY. AND THAT’S WHY IT’S STILL SPREAD SO EASILY INDOOR BECAUSE IT REMAINS SUSPENDED. IT WAS NEVER FLEW. IT WILL NEVER BE >> THIS LEADS PEOPLE TO SAY IT
WAS INTENTIONAL. THAT THIS WAS THE GOVERNMENT WANTING THE SICKNESS TO SPREAD. THE VACCINE WAS FORCED ON US BECAUSE IT WAS GOOD FOR BIG PHARMA. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THOSE NOTIONS? >> I WAS THERE AND NONE OF THAT HAPPENS. SO I JUST WANT
TO MAKE IT KNOW THE VIRUS NOT INTENTIONAL. WE IT WE YOU COULD SAY WE INTENTIONALLY IGNORED IT BECAUSE WE DIDN’T ACT FAST ENOUGH AND WE DIDN’T TEST FAST ENOUGH. I WE LOVE ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME IN FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. JUST
RACING SYMPTOMS. THEY CLEARLY HAD A SYMPTOMATIC DISEASE AND WE’RE SPREADING VIRUS AND NOW WE KNOW. SO WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW AS SOLUTIONS TO FIX THE BIG GAPS THAT WE FOUND IN OUR RESPONSE? AND AND I FEAR WE STILL HAVEN’T TAKEN
RESPIRATORY DISEASES AND RNA VIRUSES SERIOUSLY ENOUGH AS A COUNTRY LONG COVID YOUR LEVEL OF CONCERN. >> YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE NOTION THAT ITS VACCINE CAUSED. AND WHAT YOU MAKE OF COMPARISONS OF LONG COVID TO HIV AIDS THAT ARE NOW IN THE NEWS.
>> GREAT CROSSING, CHRIS. FIRST LONG COVID PREDATES ANY OF OUR COVID VACCINES. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE KEY AREAS THAT SEPARATES THIS VIRUS FROM WHAT WE’VE KNOWN ABOUT OTHER VIRUSES. AND I WANT TO REALLY EMPHASIZE TO YOU AND THE
PUBLIC, WE ALL HAVE EXPERIENCE FOR WITH THIS VIRUS OF 4 YEARS AND WE’RE LEARNING SOMETHING DIFFERENT EVERY SINGLE MONTH ABOUT WHAT THIS VIRUS IS CAPABLE OF DOING FROM WHAT IS CAPABLE TO DO LOGICALLY AND NEUROLOGICALLY IN THE LONG TERM. WHAT IT’S CAPABLE TO DO
OUR MITOCHONDRIA. AND THAT”S THIS MUSCLE PROBLEM THAT WE’RE SEEING, WHAT IT’S CAPABLE OF DOING WITH MICRO CLOTS. WE WOULD TO PRETEND THAT WE KNOW EVERYTHING THAT THIS VIRUS IS DOING AND TO BE CAVALIER ABOUT GETTING REPETITIVE COVID INFECTIONS. IS THERE REALLY A
HUGE MISTAKE? I I’M CAREFUL. I’VE HAD IT MY 95 YEAR-OLD MOTHER’S NOT HAD IT AT ALL BECAUSE SHE’S IN A PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE AGE GROUP. THERE’S A WAY TO PROTECT PEOPLE WITH COMMON SENSE STRATEGIES. >> COMPARISONS TO HIV. YOU’VE
DONE A TON OF RESEARCH IN THIS. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS IS A FALSE FLAG? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CONTEXTUALLY PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT COMPARISON OR IS THIS MUCH DARKER POTENTIAL REALITY THAN WE KNEW? >> THE REASON THEY COMPARISON
TO HIV IS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE HIV WAS ALSO ASYMPTOMATIC. I MEAN, YOU COULDN’T SEE THE VIRUS THROUGH SYMPTOMS BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE INFECTED FOR 7, 8, 9, YEARS BEFORE THEY DEVELOP SYMPTOMS. BUT HIV QUIETLY DESTROYED OUR IMMUNE SYSTEM. AND WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT
IMMUNOLOGY FROM HIV AND IT’S CHANGED COMPLETELY. ARE CANCER THERAPY. WE’RE LEARNING NOW ABOUT MITOCHONDRIA AND VIRAL IMPACT AND BRAIN FOG. AND THIS THE CHANGES IN OUR NEURONS AND THE CELLS THAT NOURISHED. >> OUR NEURONS THAT REALLY ALLOW US TO THINK AND MOVE.
AND WE’RE LEARNING THAT BECAUSE WHAT OF LONG COVID HAS DONE. AND SO THERE’S 2 SIDES OF THIS COIN EVERY TIME THERE’S A LOT OF DESTRUCTION THAT MILD AND MODERATE COVID CAN DO. THAT IS ON SCENE. JUST LIKE HIV WAS DESTROYING OUR
IMMUNE SYSTEM. BUT WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT IS BRILLIANT SCIENCE THAT CHANGED HOW WE TREATED HIV. AND IF YOU’RE DIAGNOSED TODAY, YOU CAN LIVE A VERY NORMAL LIFE SPAN AND PEOPLE NOT ONLY SURVIVE BUT THRIVE. WE NEED TO GET TO THE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE
